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Mrs. Hot Wings, Chicago/San Diego Age and Occupation: 28, Professor Fiance's Age and Occupation: 32, Instructor Engagement Date: December 20, 2008 Wedding Date: August 2010 Venue: Ocean View Villas/Jasmine Seafood Restaurant About Me: I am a psychology grad student living in Chicago and planning my wedding to a fellow psych grad student. I am a Sunny So-Cal bred gal who trudged across the country to follow her love of psychology and ended up finding a partner in the process. I am overly passionate about anything I involve myself with. I am an activist, a foodie, a reality TV watching junkie, an over-analyzer, a photography obsesser, and am utterly cheesy to the core. This is a story of what happens when a boy and a girl meet, fall in love over academic dorkiness, and a shared love for life. We (mostly I) are planning our semi-destination wedding in my hometown of San Diego. We are excited to bring our families and friends together from across our lifespans to celebrate our future in a grand 400+ person culturally blended affair!
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How many of you know when the U.S. Supreme court finally repealed the law that prevented Whites and Asians (and other races) from marrying? Mr. Hot Wings and I got our marriage license this week. We called one weekday morning, got an appointment for 3 hours later, went down, got the license, and were on our way home again a mere 30 minutes later.
The process was really no big deal for Mr. Hot Wings. He actually seemed a bit annoyed with the whole thing. While we were waiting, I asked him why he looked so annoyed. It’s a big deal, it’s a big day. He still didn’t care. I reminded him that it hasn’t always been legal for two people of our racial backgrounds to go through this process and that we ought to be happy about it. There are people who still don’t have this right bestowed to them. He doesn’t have to think about these things very regularly so it was a really good reminder for him.

Here are some other things I noticed about this process.

  • Their website clearly states that the office will not give marriage licenses to same-sex couples. However, at no point does the form ask me for my gender or sex. The clerk did ask me for my drivers’ license and checked off all the information listed on the application. Does this mean that she’s the one that checks my gender to ensure that we’re not a same-sex couple? Can you say, “confused?”
  • Both Mr. Hot Wings AND I signed a form indicating our understanding that we BOTH could change our names at that time if we wished. When I did name change research a while back, I had read that men who wanted to change their name at marriage had to go to court, see a judge, and plead their case. This may have changed? However, the clerk questioned ME but not Mr. Hot Wings when I indicated no name change (yup, I’m sticking with my birth name for now).

It bothers me that is it might be the clerk’s job to judge who is eligible for marriage. Recall that as recently as 2009, a Louisiana marriage clerk denied a marriage license to an interracial couple because he claims that he was looking out for their future children. Should I also note that my racial background also is not a required piece of information on the application? Because it isn’t.

I’m marrying my partner in just under 2 months. I can’t imagine living in the U.S. during a time when it was illegal for me to do so. Change happens, and the Hot Wings’ wedding is a sign that progress happens. I know there are many of you waiting for legal change in so many ways and in so many states. I’ve been thinking of all of you today!

[answer to my first question: 1967 with Loving v. Virginia]

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25 Responses to “Legal Today, but It Wasn’t Always”

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Miss Locket
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Miss Locket (message)  2,837 posts, Sugar bee

I did know about that law….I heard that in some states it was still illegal up until the 70s…crazy how it seemed “normal” then. I really hope things do change for the better.

 
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MissChirpie
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MissChirpie (message)  730 posts, Busy bee

Wow! 1967? That doesn’t even seem like that long ago. I, for one, really like change! And for many people out there who are still denied the right to marry the one they love, I hope for more change for you.

 
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Miss Jellyfish
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Miss Jellyfish (message)  1,453 posts, Bumble bee

Ah yes. I remember when my Con Law prof (Goodwin Liu) lectured about Loving v. Virginia, it was really touching because he’s Chinese and his wife is white, and he put up a wedding picture of them during the lecture. And now Obama nominated him to the 9th Circuit! Very exciting stuff. Anyway, Congrats on getting your marriage license! Yay Hot Wings!

 
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TheFutureMcBride
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TheFutureMcBride (message)  4,485 posts, Honey bee

Congrats! I can’t wait to go get our license as we get married in August as well. Granted, McGroom and I don’t really have any racial diversity, I really do think about everyone who can’t get married. It’s ridiculous to me. I read all the blogs throughout the day and some of the sweetest are from people who can’t be legally married. I just wish that there was something I could do to support them and say “everyone should be able to marry,” on our day.

Great post!

 
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sallyinvitedink
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sallyinvitedink (message)  55 posts, Worker bee

58 years ago this month, my Grandparents were considered an interracial couple and had a hard time getting married in California. My Grandma is white. My Grandfather is Hawaiian. Thank goodness for change, it is just to bad that it is so slow and that not everyone has the same rights.

 
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Gilneas
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Gilneas (message)  1,393 posts, Bumble bee

My greatest hope is that, one day, my children will take for granted the fact that same sex couples can legally marry, the way that so many of us do with interracial couples, just as we consider it a given right that women can vote, and people of different races can marry, without a second thought.

 
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Mrs. Star
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Mrs. Star (message)  2,063 posts, Buzzing bee

Great post :)

 
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Violet Violet
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Violet Violet (message)  985 posts, Busy bee

Congrats! It’s crazy to think that it wasn’t that long ago, when you look at the big picture. Thankfully that law was gone by the time my parents married!

 
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Curlysue (message)  1,703 posts, Bumble bee

Wow! I had never heard of the law before!! And it wasn’t changed not that long ago—wow. Congrats on getting your license! Which reminds me, because duh I almost forgot for some reason, we need to get ours too! But we can’t until the wedding is 30 days out here in Colorado.

 
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sapphirebride (message)  1,754 posts, Buzzing bee

@Miss Hotwings: This is sort of tangential but funny…the social security administration had me down as male until I was 25! I found out when I got a letter at work saying there was a discrepancy. I had to go to the SSA office and explain the situation. Thankfully, they didn’t ask for any “proof” that I was female. :)

 
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Miss Elephant
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Miss Elephant (message)  6,210 posts, Bee Keeper

Great post!

 
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@Gilneas - my thoughts exactly.

My parents are an interracial couple… so I sympathize with everyone who is fighting for equality, in any circumstance.

Congratulations to you and your families - and thank you for shining a light on an issue that affects many Americans today.

 
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Mrs. French Bulldog
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Mrs. French Bulldog (message)  7,706 posts, Bumble Beekeeper

Great post Mrs Hot Wings :) Very well put.

 
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Mrs. French Bulldog
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Mrs. French Bulldog (message)  7,706 posts, Bumble Beekeeper

Ooops got ahead of myself there - *Miss* Hot Wings ;-)

 
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Miss Shoe
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Miss Shoe (message)  105 posts, Blushing bee

Great post!
That bit of information regarding the Louisianna clerk was shocking. Being a Caucasian who is marrying an Asian man and living in New York, I get a lot of “oohhh, your children will be so gorgeous!” I’m glad I live up here.

 
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jordynrose
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jordynrose (message)  6,351 posts, Bee Keeper

I thought the guy who denied that LA couple was actually the JOP. Either way though, it is mind boggling that this type of discrimination is still going on, especially since Loving has been the law for a signficant period of time. Hopefully we will soon has a same-sex version of Loving coming our way.

 
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Mrs. Cola (message)  2,833 posts, Sugar bee

Thank goodness those silly laws don’t exist anymore! Congrats to you guys for getting your license, the big day is just around the corner now!

 
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Miss Socks (message)  1,344 posts, Bumble bee

Very well said–I heard about that case in Louisiana when it happened and couldn’t stop thinking “REALLY???” because it just seemed so ridiculous! Great post.

 
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Miss Cardigan
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Miss Cardigan (message)  8,645 posts, Bumble Beekeeper

Love this post! I was so upset when I heard about that case in Louisiana!

 
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Butterfly119
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Butterfly119 (message)  87 posts, Worker bee

Your post made me appreciate that I live today, and not decades earlier. My FI is spanish, and I’m white….I never really thought how if we had lived just a few decades ago we would have never been possible. I sure hope that one day EVERYONE is able to marry anyone they want.

 
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Mrs. Hot Wings, Chicago/San Diego Age and Occupation: 28, Professor Fiance's Age and Occupation: 32, Instructor Engagement Date: December 20, 2008 Wedding Date: August 2010 Venue: Ocean View Villas/Jasmine Seafood Restaurant About Me: I am a psychology grad student living in Chicago and planning my wedding to a fellow psych grad student. I am a Sunny So-Cal bred gal who trudged across the country to follow her love of psychology and ended up finding a partner in the process. I am overly passionate about anything I involve myself with. I am an activist, a foodie, a reality TV watching junkie, an over-analyzer, a photography obsesser, and am utterly cheesy to the core. This is a story of what happens when a boy and a girl meet, fall in love over academic dorkiness, and a shared love for life. We (mostly I) are planning our semi-destination wedding in my hometown of San Diego. We are excited to bring our families and friends together from across our lifespans to celebrate our future in a grand 400+ person culturally blended affair!

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