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Mrs. Hot Wings, Chicago/San Diego Age and Occupation: 28, Professor Fiance's Age and Occupation: 32, Instructor Engagement Date: December 20, 2008 Wedding Date: August 2010 Venue: Ocean View Villas/Jasmine Seafood Restaurant About Me: I am a psychology grad student living in Chicago and planning my wedding to a fellow psych grad student. I am a Sunny So-Cal bred gal who trudged across the country to follow her love of psychology and ended up finding a partner in the process. I am overly passionate about anything I involve myself with. I am an activist, a foodie, a reality TV watching junkie, an over-analyzer, a photography obsesser, and am utterly cheesy to the core. This is a story of what happens when a boy and a girl meet, fall in love over academic dorkiness, and a shared love for life. We (mostly I) are planning our semi-destination wedding in my hometown of San Diego. We are excited to bring our families and friends together from across our lifespans to celebrate our future in a grand 400+ person culturally blended affair!
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A couple weeks ago, before Prop 8 was overturned, a new colleague who is in a long term committed same-sex partnership asked me how I felt about getting married in California where the institution of civil marriage discriminates against people based on their sexual orientation. At first, I felt caught off guard. She knows I’m a supporter and fighter for equal rights on many fronts. However, I didn’t want to get defensive. She had a right to ask me. Luckily, I had thought about this before and knew how I felt about the issue. I’ve actually been asked this twice since getting engaged.

Let me just make this clear. I didn’t just sit around and attempt to come up with a “correct” answer. I thought about this as a matter of principle. I am the type of person who listens to song lyrics, and if/when I decide the song is discriminatory or wrong in some way, I essentially boycott it. I don’t care if it’s got a great beat and is all the rage at the clubs. A song that trivializes sexual abuse for example is not something I want to dance to. So I had to come to decide for myself if marriage was right for me, at a time when many couples say that they are boycotting the institution of marriage until it is legal for ALL individuals to do so.

In my personal opinion, and this is me and mine alone, marriage is a wonderful institution. With it comes privileges, rights, and unspoken approval and sentiments that words cannot express. Marriage is not merely the license that you get to be legal. Marriage is more. Marriage is the commitment you publicly make to join your life with another human being. Marriage is an expression that you are more than single individuals. Marriage is not simply 1 + 1 = 2. There’s something magical that happens when two people wed. Something more than 2 is created. The whole of marriage is more than the sum of its parts (i.e., the individuals that wed). Marriage is a right worth fighting for. I think marriage is so special that we should all have the right to choose whether we want to do it or not. So this is why I’m getting married, despite the fact that it is not currently a right that is bestowed on all my fellow brothers and sisters. Those before me in interracial partnerships fought for my right to marry Mr. Hot Wings. I will be married and continue to fight for the right for everyone to be married because domestic partnerships and cohabitation is not enough. Marriage is what my ancestors fought for and what we all deserve.

I don’t know if this is the answer my colleague wanted to hear. I don’t know if she thought of it this way or not, but it’s true to how I feel. I will not boycott marriage, because I don’t believe that does the fight any good. To go on living without a marriage license with Mr Hot Wings and be happy would mean that there’s nothing special about marriage. That’s simply not true in my opinion.

Have you been challenged about your reasons for getting married?

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21 Responses to “Supporting Gay Marriage and Getting Married”

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jordynrose
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jordynrose (message)  6,351 posts, Bee Keeper

Well said HW!

 
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aruka11
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aruka11 (message)  615 posts, Busy bee

Well said - and I’m so glad you and other Bees are taking this issue head-on!

 
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SandraMarie_1986
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SandraMarie_1986 (message)  1,363 posts, Bumble bee

Lovely opinion!!!

P.S. I do the same thing to songs.

 
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Mrs. Hermit Crab
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Mrs. Hermit Crab (message)  3,562 posts, Sugar bee

Well said, thank you for sharing this post.

 
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Mrs. French Bulldog
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Mrs. French Bulldog (message)  7,730 posts, Bee Keeper

Well said HW! I couldn’t agree more. I had discussions with my gay friends after Prop 8 past, how they felt about us (and other no same-sex couples) getting married and not one was against the idea. They all had similar stances to yours and didn’t believe that boycotting marriage would help in any way.
P.S. Like, SandraMarie_1986, I’m the same way with songs.

 
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Mrs. D'orsay (message)  2,272 posts, Buzzing bee

It think this is a really interesting POV, thanks for sharing it!

 
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jeweltones

“I think marriage is so special that we should all have the right to choose whether we want to do it or not.”

Exactly. Very well put, Miss HW! I might steal your answer.

 
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TheFutureMcBride
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TheFutureMcBride (message)  4,479 posts, Honey bee

Great post. Honestly, I’ve thought more about the right for all to marry since I’ve been planning my wedding. It’s not something which was in the back of my mind, but it’s brought to light how special it really is and how everyone should be able to marry if they want.

 
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Entangled
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Entangled (message)  2,616 posts, Sugar bee

I have mostly been challenged by myself… I personally have a lot of issues with taking advantage of a right that isn’t opened to others and I still haven’t fully come to grips with it. I do like your answer. Most gay people I know haven’t really made an issue of it, though, it’s me and my over-analytical self-critizing self.

My answer to myself is that we’re dealing with two issues at once - by getting married in California we’re having the wedding we want and can plan on a practical level, but some older relatives who live in the northeast won’t be able to join us. We’re also having a wedding in a state where marriage rights were restricted and are now in a legal limbo. We decided to get legally married a couple of weeks earlier in Connecticut. It allows our grandparents to be there and it also reminds me that there are couples who are forced to go to the few states that give same-sex couples full rights to marry.

 
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Miss Argyle
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Miss Argyle (message)  2,516 posts, Sugar bee

Well said Hot Wing.

We haven’t been challenged, but it bothers me everyday that many of our friends are not granted the same rights Mr. A and I are. With the news of Prop 8 being overturned, it was music to my ears. I only hope more states continue to follow.

 
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connor612 (message)  17 posts, Newbee

I was torn as well, but then I read this:

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=2418343

I think it is a really good stance and has some great suggestions for us straights!

 
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seattlemeg
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seattlemeg (message)  538 posts, Busy bee

Connor612 beat me to it! I was going to say that the way that I am dealing with these feelings of guilt is by including that passage from the 2003 Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. I found it from that savage love quite awhile ago and it was brought to my attention again recently when looking for readings.
Thanks for bringing up the topic Miss Hot Wings!

 
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Miss Glasses (message)  2,741 posts, Sugar bee

Amen, sister friend!

 
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Miss Sand Dollar
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Miss Sand Dollar (message)  1,305 posts, Bumble bee

Beautifully written. Amen.

 
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jlp2w71611 (message)  298 posts, Helper bee

Many people say “don’t do it” and that does annoy. Not everyone has that right & that’s just sad. I am so happy to be pledging my love forever & feel everyone should have the right as well!

 
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Miss Socks (message)  1,323 posts, Bumble bee

Beautifully put, HW!

 
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Miss Seahorse (message)  156 posts, Blushing bee

Thanks for writing this! It was really nice to read. I’ve actually been dealing with similar emotions… I can get married to Fancee here in MA but Miss Stripes can’t marry F. Stripes unless she goes to a different state. So frustrating! So much guilt but at the same time… so much joy HERE, and wanting to take advantage of what little we can.

Thanks, too, for the reminder of the change of interracial relationship rights - hopefully we can talk about same-sex marriage in the same way in a few years.

Someone recently pointed out that same-sex couples who are considering marriage should find somewhere to do it legally and DO IT - make yourself counted. Interesting idea.

 
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LoriLori
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LoriLori (message)  727 posts, Busy bee

I know it’s not the same but my remarriage got challenged a bunch of times. We were both married before and I got a lot of “if my marriage doesn’t work out I’ll never getting married again!” I guess I’m an eternal optimist! Although my first marriage didn’t work out as planned it’s not the fault of the institution. I feel everyone should be coupled and EVERYONE should have that right. Being married is much more than have a long term significant other. I totally support marriage equality!

 
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Moody
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Moody (message)  113 posts, Blushing bee

I am a HUGE cheerleader for marriage for all!! I live in SF, so this is a day-to-day topic I am engaged in. I have many gay and lesbian friends who should have the same right as I do!!

My fiance is Asian and I am white, so 50 years ago, marrying him wasn’t an option. My parents’ generation is what made that happen, and I will continue to fight for those who don’t have the same rights.

 
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mrspaetz
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mrspaetz (message)  3,805 posts, Honey bee

I’ve had naysayers about our union, and even till now, I sense the lack of full approval of us.

We’re also a mixed-race couple and can understand how, not too long ago, we wouldn’t even be allowed to be together. I agree fully with the points you made, and I too, hope that someday everyone will have the right to make such a commitment.

 
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Mrs. Hot Wings, Chicago/San Diego Age and Occupation: 28, Professor Fiance's Age and Occupation: 32, Instructor Engagement Date: December 20, 2008 Wedding Date: August 2010 Venue: Ocean View Villas/Jasmine Seafood Restaurant About Me: I am a psychology grad student living in Chicago and planning my wedding to a fellow psych grad student. I am a Sunny So-Cal bred gal who trudged across the country to follow her love of psychology and ended up finding a partner in the process. I am overly passionate about anything I involve myself with. I am an activist, a foodie, a reality TV watching junkie, an over-analyzer, a photography obsesser, and am utterly cheesy to the core. This is a story of what happens when a boy and a girl meet, fall in love over academic dorkiness, and a shared love for life. We (mostly I) are planning our semi-destination wedding in my hometown of San Diego. We are excited to bring our families and friends together from across our lifespans to celebrate our future in a grand 400+ person culturally blended affair!

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