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Mrs. Pretzel, Seattle Age and Occupation: 32 Learning, Training, and Development Specialist Fiance's Age and Occupation: 28 Manufacturing Engineer Engagement Date: September 2, 2009 Wedding Date: July 2010 Venue: Catholic Church & The Engine Room at Georgetown Studios About Me: I’m just a thirty-something girl who never dreamed of weddings, poofy dresses, or ritzy receptions. I am a rabid knitter, except recently, wedding projects have replaced my yarn and needles. I’ve been fiercely independent since the age of 2 and 30 years later I think my family and friends had given up on me settling down and getting married. Ironically, I had to go all the way to Seattle to find a boy from Purdue. We fell in love over Seattle Beers and cooking together. I love NASCAR, he loves Legos. I can talk like a Muppet and he can fit a whole McDonald’s cheeseburger in his mouth. We are a two reception couple, currently planning a brewery inspired bash.
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The “Meat” of It

August 31st, 2010 @ 4:00 pm by Mrs. Pretzel

Our wedding planning was relatively drama-free. The one bit of pre-wedding drama that we encountered had to do with whether or not my brother would wear a tie while escorting my mom down the aisle. Admittedly it was a silly fight to pick—there were tears shed and feelings bruised, but in the end, this silly bit of drama uncovered something that stopped me dead in my tracks.

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My brother felt that our wedding was superficial, that I was only concerned about the aesthetics and the details.

When he told me this, tears welled up in my eyes and I couldn’t wrap my head around how he could have this perception. Then he told me, “Well, it’s all you blog about and all you talk about.” (He doesn’t read my blog mind you, but his wife, my MOH does, and keeps him up to date.)

Ah-ha! It all made sense. IF you are looking at our wedding through the lens of what I write about on Weddingbee, then yes, you might deduce (as my brother did) that I was overly-concerned with the superficial elements of a wedding. I became aware that my blogging had focused very much on the details and all the trappings of the wedding, but not on the personal journey that Mr Pretzel and I were on to prepare for our marriage. On top of it, a little nagging voice asked, “do people really care about this stuff?”

I notice that when people ask about the wedding, I gravitate to the material stuff (the dress, the venue, etc.) because I don’t want to bore them with the heavier, deeper stuff.

I guess it boils down to the fact that the meaty stuff—the really, really, good stuff—well, it was just too personal to write about while we were in the midst of it. I planned out whole posts to write about how we, as a couple, prepared for the sacrament of marriage, the blessing that was our engaged encounter, and how we crafted our ceremony to reflect us as a couple and our love of our faith. But when my fingers hit the keyboard, I hit a block.

These things were my favorite parts of wedding preparation and planning, and I could not write about them. To write about them would take a lot of time and careful consideration, and to be honest, with all other wedding tasks on our plates, I didn’t feel I could do any of them justice. “After the wedding I’ll write these posts,” I kept telling myself. Well, it has been almost two months after the wedding, and it is time.

In the next few posts I’ll share with you the “meat” of the Pretzel wedding and how we got to the altar. I’m grateful that my brother raised these concerns, because it aired misconceptions that he had and gave me an opportunity to let him see more of our wedding preparation from an insider’s view. It also made me realize that people who love you don’t really care about the details and material stuff, it’s the meaty stuff they want to hear about.

Oh and if you are wondering about the tie, he didn’t wear one but looked great in a tuxedo shirt—a classic example of me being wrong.

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Are there parts of your planning that you find hard to share with others? Why?

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29 Responses to “The “Meat” of It”

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heather25
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heather25 (message)  2,355 posts, Buzzing bee

Why was he trying to fight you about a tie?

 
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One2-Three4 (message)  129 posts, Blushing bee

I think it’s great how you will be sharing more “meat”, but I also think it was unnecessary for your brother to create an issue over something so stupid. It seems like he just zinged you to get his way.

 
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yelhsa439 (message)  73 posts, Worker bee

I don’t understand why people need to be like that! I honestly don’t! We “the brides” talk about alot of the details because they are a major part of our lives at this moment! Just like when you are pregnant…that is a major part of your life and you want to talk about it! Yes…a wedding is about more than the details…but! you are wanting to celebrate your wedding day with family and friends and that takes a lot of time and thought and energy! My FMIL exploded about the unity candle because we wanted to do the unity sand. She yelled and cussed and screamed and told us how selfish we were for doing this. Hmmmmm funny how that is sort of the same thing as the tie? I don’t blame you for talking about the details..they are fun..they are important and they are what a large portion of us come here to read about. We need ideas and details and we need to have examples for us to go off of. I’m sorry he had to make you feel that way…but! at least your followers will have more post to read now! woohoo!!

 
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Mrs. Pretzel (message)  1,893 posts, Buzzing bee

@yelhsa439 & @heather25:

Thanks for you comments! I don’t want the small tie drama to overshadow the point of the post. I haven’t been talking about the meaty parts of this journey, and really I want to. By filtering my info I gave my brother a misconception about what I value and what our wedding was about. We got it all cleared up, but it was a reminder to myself. Represent the things that I value appropriately. I’m looking forward to more “meaty” posts soon!

 
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Rebecca

Kudos, Mrs Pretzel!!
Not many brides can stand up and say — hey– I was wrong. As previous comments have said — why was your brother being difficult?— I disagree. As Brides– we need to share the important stuff– not just the details and pretty princess day— really— what is a wedding for anyway? A big part just because? NO— it’s a celebration of your love shared with your husband. So why not focus on that first?

I’m glad that your brother spoke up and even more glad that you acted like an adult and realized what was really going on.

Sometimes more people are affected by your blog than you EVER know…… even people that aren’t associated with your wedding…..your words are out there, now. Time to take a stand and dive deeper.

God Bless!

 
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blondeeebuckeye
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blondeeebuckeye (message)  1,083 posts, Bumble bee

i know exactly what you mean. i have my blog linked to my facebook, and i’ve had a few people comment that “all i talk about is wedding stuff on there” and that “my marriage will be forever, the wedding will be 1 day”. um, duh–it’s a wedding planning blog. we are “planning” our lives together too, but i dont think many people (or my readers at least) care to read about how we opened a joint checking account together and made each other the beneficiaries on on life insurance policies. there are other small things we’re doing daily to “plan” for our life together, but it’s really difficult to put it into words sometimes…

can’t wait to see what you write in the coming weeks!

 
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mjchexum
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mjchexum (message)  485 posts, Helper bee

Writing about the “meaty stuff” isn’t always easy though. I think WeddingBee is about the details AND the deep stuff, but like I said, it’s hard to write about the deep stuff sometimes. I think it’s a given that everyone is experiencing the “deep stuff” while getting married, but not everyone likes to talk about it or hear about it. I do of course, and I’m sure most girls do :) but it certainly does make you feel a little vulnerable throwing all that mushy stuff out there for all to see. But anyway I think the argument about the tie was a little passive aggressive on your brother’s part. It’s your wedding, he shouldve just shut his mouth and thrown on a tie (though I do agree he looks just as dapper without one). But don’t worry about it, we all felt the love from your posts. Being obsessed with the details shows your committed to this wedding, whether it be for the love of the man you’re marrying, or just the love for the color of your bridesmaid dresses, we felt it!

 
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moderndaisy
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moderndaisy (message)  6,607 posts, Bee Keeper

I understand his point, but by you asking him to wear a tie, you were trying to help him fit into the dress code/feel of your wedding so he can look back in pictures and feel proud about the way he dressed. DH wanted to wear a tie instead of bowtie with his tux and it took me MONTHS of negotiating, but finally he agreed. Yesterday, we were looking at our wedding photos and he THANKED me for pushing him to wear a bowtie, because a tie would have been a real eyesore, not fitting in with the dress code and venue at all and a decision he would have regretted.

It seems like such a small frivilous thing, but the bride is in charge of making sure these ‘little things’ arent’ overlooked so that ultimately everything works out for the best. Your brother might be the kind of person who will never care about something like that, but most people do - and should respect the little requests like these anyway out of love for the couple.

 
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LittlestBirds
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LittlestBirds (message)  2,605 posts, Sugar bee

Your reaction to this is really admirable, Pretzel. I know I for one am seriously looking forward to those posts. Even from a distance, I have always been able to tell that every step of the engagement and marriage process has been incredibly meaningful and special to you, and it will be a privilege to hear about it when you have time to give voice to those emotions.

I think, however, that you’re not giving yourself enough credit. I don’t want to beat your brother up at all, as I have no idea what the circumstances with him were when he said that to you. But I will say that I feel like in society in general, there’s a horrible prejudice toward assuming the worst about brides when they’re planning their weddings. Everyone who observes the process has the word “bridezilla” just waiting on the tips of their tongues to fling out at any sign of obsession over detail. The fact of the matter is, planning a wedding is practically a full-time job, and it’s impossible to do it well without spending a metric crapload of time thinking about “superficial” details - and if one is interested in an emotional support network/not going completely insane, at some point, one is going to want (need) to talk to someone else about all those details. I just can’t handle the idea of someone (and I don’t just mean your brother) assuming that a bride has no appreciation for her marriage simply because she spends time planning the details of the wedding. Why on earth wouldn’t you give a bride the benefit of the doubt about something so basic as assuming she *values her marriage* more than her custom linens?

Sorry, just a soapbox moment, and I recognize it’s a little ridiculous to paint brides as a persecuted minority, but I do feel there’s a lot of unfair perceptions out there regarding brides. Again, I don’t mean to single your brother out.

 
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Mrs. Trail Mix (message)  6,312 posts, Bee Keeper

I’m glad you worked everything out with your brother and I’m looking forward to your ‘meaty’ posts!

 
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Miss Rainbow (message)  1,535 posts, Bumble bee

Ugh, I hate to say it, but the whole “it seems to superficial” issue is a big BIG part of why we cancelled our wedding. When we got engaged and started planning, I was so excited and concerned about all the details, I was perfectly happy being a “normal” bride-to-be.

And then… Mr. R and I went to a wedding (typical wedding- flowers, decor, dress, centerpieces, vows, etc) and it all just felt so fake to me. I went in thinking I’d be filled with excitement and anticipation when I saw all the beautiful decoring, just imagining what “our day” would be like, but when I got there, I was just… uncomfortable. Don’t get me wrong, it was beautiful, but it felt like this big, fake, carefully orchestrated circus and it just left a horrible taste in my mouth.

Don’t get me wrong, I know weddings are much more than that to the couple as you stated, but putting so much effort and thought and time into the menial little details made me realize that all the hoopla of having a “wedding-wedding” just wasn’t for me!

Just wanted to offer a different perspective and say that I can relate to where your brother was coming from with how things look “on the outside”. Weddings are indeed beautiful, but they’re definitely not for everyone. Found that out the hard way!

Glad you’ll be talking about the “other” wedding stuff too! :)

 
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BaileyH

The one thing i always took pride in was my relaxed attitude towards the wedding in every aspect.

I remember two things the most out of the ten years of planning and it is this:

My future cousin as me: Are you ready for the wedding?

I answer: Im ready for the marriage, not the wedding

She smiled and said she had never heard anyone say that before and it was refreshing.

The other was my aunt coming up to me and saying something my FH (at the time said: (this was while we were decorating the hall)

Aunt says: Mr. Panda do you feel stressed about decorating and the wedding and such?

Mr. Panda responds: No, I just feel lucky

(oh gosh..i cry now just thinking about it)

Its so hard not to become focused on the “details” cause as everyone says “its all in the details” Im proud to say i was focused on the marriage and “the meat” (OKAY and the honeymoon as well *Laugh*)

 
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kcroxyoursox

Here’s the thing - you can teach people to arrange flowers, build color schemes, emboss things. But you can’t teach people to love, to respect or to “know.” I would venture to say that, while we will be looking forward to your meaty posts, most people don’t flock here for relationship advice as much as they do for DIY inspiration and how-to demos. So don’t for a second feel like there has been anything superficial about your blog and your journey, because there hasn’t!

 
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Miss Elephant
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Miss Elephant (message)  6,177 posts, Bee Keeper

I am really looking forward to hearing more about your wedding! As a new bee, I’m mentally trying to decide what balance of details and “meaty” stuff I should really write about. The details are easy to talk about (like you mentioned) but some of the meaty stuff may be too personal to share. I guess I have the next 8 months to work at it :)

 
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Miss Cardigan
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Miss Cardigan (message)  8,645 posts, Bee Keeper

I love reading the “meaty” posts! Can’t wait to hear what you have to say!

 
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heather25
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heather25 (message)  2,355 posts, Buzzing bee

To each her or his own. I enjoy the crafting and DIY and beautiful details of weddings. Now all the details in the world will not make a couple’s love greater or smaller. But I think those details are better experienced and shared by the couple/family themselves. I strongly disagree with rainbow that the “orchestration” would have left a bad taste in my mouth. In the same way, a bride that goes to city hall to get married is no more or less in love and meaty than the bride that has a lavish affair.

I really dislike your bro’s judgment of the way you presented details of your (”very personal”) affair to a very public forum. I sometimes cringe when I read some of the “emotional”-tagged bee posts. I don’t know these women and it is anonymous, but I feel like I have invaded very deep personal spaces and I feel embarrassed to be there. Yes, the bees go out on a limb to share sometimes. I appreciate that. But you can bet that I wouldn’t be a Weddingbee reader if the hive was all about people’s relationship up-and-downs and not about DIY and fun. Just my 2 cents.

 
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Miss Octopus (message)  1,446 posts, Bumble bee

I’m looking forward to reading your upcoming series, Pretzel!

 
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Mrs. Pretzel
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Mrs. Pretzel (message)  1,893 posts, Buzzing bee

@LittlestBirds: Thanks Lil birds! I agree that people do seem poised to deem wedding planning as drama filled and often associate careful planning for a control trip.

@Miss Rainbow: Girl, you are so strong to recognize that it wasn’t for you in your situation. Good to see your face ’round these parts- missed ya!

@kcroxyoursox: Thanks so much- you hit the nail on the head. The tension I have is to share our journey without it seeming preachy- it’s how we got to the alter and some of the most memorial parts of planning for us, but might not be the path other couples take. I think that’s ok - its just our path- not right, not wrong, just ours.

 
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Miss Seahorse (message)  156 posts, Blushing bee

So good to read this! I have similar blocks when trying to write, only for me it’s the other way around… I can spout about the meat, but I get all nervous and embarrassed about our favors or invitations, and I DO get nervous that I’ll be seen as superficial. You just can’t win. Anyway, I look forward to reading some of your meat! :) And that’s a sentence I will never say again (reading meat?).

 
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jordynrose
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jordynrose (message)  6,351 posts, Bee Keeper

I am a very private person, so for me I will always share a superficial detail before a substantive one. Some people just aren’t sharers of personal information.

 
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Mrs. Pretzel, Seattle Age and Occupation: 32 Learning, Training, and Development Specialist Fiance's Age and Occupation: 28 Manufacturing Engineer Engagement Date: September 2, 2009 Wedding Date: July 2010 Venue: Catholic Church & The Engine Room at Georgetown Studios About Me: I’m just a thirty-something girl who never dreamed of weddings, poofy dresses, or ritzy receptions. I am a rabid knitter, except recently, wedding projects have replaced my yarn and needles. I’ve been fiercely independent since the age of 2 and 30 years later I think my family and friends had given up on me settling down and getting married. Ironically, I had to go all the way to Seattle to find a boy from Purdue. We fell in love over Seattle Beers and cooking together. I love NASCAR, he loves Legos. I can talk like a Muppet and he can fit a whole McDonald’s cheeseburger in his mouth. We are a two reception couple, currently planning a brewery inspired bash.

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