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Mrs. Octopus, Boston, MA/Pittsburgh, PA Age and Occupation: 25, Grad Student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Graphics Operator for TV News Engagement Date: May 6th, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2010 Venue: Heinz Chapel Ceremony, Museum Reception About Me: When my best friend dragged me to a toga party in our freshmen year of college, I was not expecting to meet my future husband; but seven years later, here we are. I'm a crazy-organized planner at heart, and I am a great lover of random trivia, books, chocolate, blogs, new and exciting adventures, mockumentary-style television, and anything heavily flavored with bright orange fake cheese powder. We're planning a festive and fun mini-destination wedding in the place where we met: fabulous Pittsburgh, PA! I can't wait to marry the man I love!
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The Name Change Gray Area

October 20th, 2010 @ 5:06 pm by Mrs. Octopus

I am a feminist—unabashedly, passionately so—and I had always planned on taking Mr. Octo’s name when we got married. Here’s why: I like the clear “family unit” connotation that having the same last name as your spouse offers, I like Mr. Octo’s last name specifically, and I want to have the same last name as our future children. Additionally, our last names sound super dumb when hyphenated (they have the same final syllable, so they sound oddly similar and rhymey). Mr. Octo was not at all interested in taking a combined name or changing his own name, but repeatedly expressed that he didn’t care what my choice was, and wanted me to do whatever felt right to me. So, I decided that I’d be changing my name.

Then we got married, and immediately, nearly everyone started referring to me as Mrs. HisName. Often, it was meant in a cute, pointed, “you’re married now!” way, but sometimes it seemed to just be an assumed fact of life (e.g., receiving cards or mail addressed to Mr. and Mrs. HisName, from people I am certain I never told whether or not I actually wanted to be addressed as such). And, surprisingly, although changing my name to HisName had always been my plan, I found that I did not like the way it felt. At all.

I guess what rubbed me the wrong way was that it felt very sudden, and it felt like I had very little agency in the matter.

I explained it to Mom Octopus by saying that with all the other emotional changes a marriage brings, the quickness with which my name was replaced was making me uncomfortable. In the weeks leading up to the wedding, I thought a lot (and, sometimes, struggled a lot) about what my new roles and identity as “wife” and “married person” were going to mean, and how they were going to change me. The sense that I was now, literally, a different person because I was married didn’t feel good. I was also uncomfortable with the assumptions people made about what I’d prefer to be called. I hadn’t been especially forthcoming with my name-change plans one way or the other before the wedding, so it really surprised me when many, many, many people automatically started calling me by his last name, without asking me what I actually wanted. It quickly started to feel like my last name had been taken away from me, rather than something I purposefully and consciously chose to change.

I know I had sixteen months to get used to the idea that I’d have a new name after the wedding; it’s not like my own plans were a surprise to me. Hey, what can I tell you? I felt how I felt. I thought that I’d be ready to go by a new name as soon as I got married, and then, it turned out that I wasn’t. Mom Octopus advised me, “Do whatever you need to do. Take some time if you feel like it. There’s no right answer. Just go with what feels right.” Mr. Octo continued not to care about whether or not I kept or changed my name, and continued to encourage me to do whatever made me happy.

So, I decided to just sit on it for a while, and think, and do nothing. I took a few weeks to let my new marriage sink in (during which time I continued going by my maiden name), and planned to re-visit the issue when our day-to-day life had more or less gotten back to normal.

Now that the excitement and thrill of the wedding, as well as the stress and anxiety and general feeling of Something Huge Is About to Happen are all over, I’ve realized that I do still want to change my name. I still like the fact that sharing a last name is a social signifier for “married to each other.” I still like his last name, and the way it sounds with my first name. I still like the idea of having a common name with our future children. I still don’t like the way our names sound when hyphenated. I guess the issue was really that I wanted to feel more like I was in control of the process, and that my name would change when and how I decided it would.

So far, I’m taking the process slowly, and doing things when I feel ready to do them. I changed my name on Facebook (a big deal, haha!), and I’ve started using his last name in non-legally-binding situations (like making restaurant reservations or whatever). I will probably start introducing myself by my married name now, and signing non-legal correspondence with my married name. I will start the actual government-documentation process…whenever. Soon-ish. I’m not in a rush, and I don’t think it’s a particularly big deal if I take some more transition time between socially becoming Mrs. HisName and making it legal. I’m also still deciding whether or not I want to scratch my current middle name and replace it with my maiden name.

I feel good about my name change now. I feel much more like it’s happening on my terms and because of my personal choice, and not like it’s something society at large assigned to me without my consent.

I never even planned on writing a name-change post, because I honestly felt like it was simply a matter of personal choice and personal business, so why would we discuss it? I’ll do me, you do you, no need to analyze each other’s choices. However, I decided to write this post because I realized that there’s another aspect beyond, “which option did you pick for yourself?” In my own name-change process, I realized that the decision is often offered up as a black-or-white situation. You’re EITHER on Team Change-Your-Name OR you’re on Team Keep-Your-Name. But now I know that it doesn’t have to be like that. You can also wait and see how it feels. You can also realize that you don’t have to be ready to change your name at the exact same moment you get married. You can also change it whenever the eff you feel like it and not a moment before. You could also think you want to change your name, and then get married, and then realize that you don’t want to change it after all, or vice versa. You could also change it in five years, or ten years, or when you have children, or whatever. I’ve always believed that changing your name is a choice, but now I also know that there are more choices than two.

What do you all think?

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Mrs. Star
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Mrs. Star (message)  2,057 posts, Buzzing bee

Great post! As you all know, we made a rather unconventional choice, but I still get “Mrs. Hisfirstname Ourlastname,” which REALLY irks me…like I don’t deserve a first name anymore because we’re married? I’m glad you came to the right decision for you, no matter what other people think!

 
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New Name

This is only the second time I have commented in over a year of Wedding Bee reading but this post described my experience EXACTLY. I got married in August and am slowly adjusting to a new name but it’s been a lot more difficult than I anticipated. Very well written and relevant post.

 
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kirafiki

I was the same way. Always wanted to change my name when I got married for most of the same reasons you nemtioned, but when it came down to it, it felt kinda weird. And now its 5 months and I still haven’t changed much. part of it is my job. I knew that we would be moving right after we got married and I had to apply for all my licenses for my job with my old name so the name change has taken months. I’m still my old name at work and otherwise I don’t walk around using my last name much so it still feels kinda like I haven’t really changed it yet. And its kind of weird to meet all these new people at work and then one day be Dr. oldlastname and then walk in one day and be dr. newlastname. I think I’m going to set a name change date, give everyone fair warning and then just finally finish doing it.

 
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Violet Violet (message)  985 posts, Busy bee

Thank you for this awesome post!!! I couldn’t agree more. Especially the “change it whenever the eff you feel like it” part, bc that will probably be my method–if I change anything.

 
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peridot13 (message)  19 posts, Newbee

I love this post. I go back and forth about the decision, and it’s not something my fiance and I have talked about yet, but I like the idea of waiting until after the wedding before making the decision.

 
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paw (message)  379 posts, Helper bee

I definitely relate to this post! It has been my plan all along to change my name as well, but it definitely irks me that people just assume I am going to. AND I know it will drive me bananas when I am referred to as Mrs. his first and last name as Mrs. Star said. Thanks for the post to know I am not alone!

 
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Nic

I commented about this on another “change your name” post but it bears repeating because I think it goes so well to your point. My mom kept her maiden name (she’s Italian, it’s a very recognizable name, and her father had no sons or brothers, so it was the end of the name completely, which was hard for her to adjust to) for YEARS AND YEARS after she and my dad got married. She changed it when I was in law school - about 30 years later! Her reason was a little kooky - “well, I just hate the idea that one day I’ll be buried next to your father and people will think I’m some random woman lying next to him in the graveyard!” (yes, she actually said that, gotta love slightly insane mothers) - but the point was, she reached a time in her life where SHE wanted to change it and felt strongly about it, and went for it. I personally plan to change mine sooner than that =) - for me too, it’s about the children, as it was always annoying to explain to people why my mom had a different last name but YES my parents were married. Anyway, my point is that while it’s my personal plan to change, I am also entirely comfortable with waiting a little while if it takes time to adjust to the new name…and I think it absolutely has to come at the time that feels right to YOU!

 
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Miss Lioness
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Miss Lioness (message)  817 posts, Busy bee

You took the words right out of my mouth! I feel the same way…well, I feel that I WILL feel the same way. I can’t wait to be Mrs. HisName, but the second someone calls me Mrs. HisFirst HisLast instead of Mrs. Herfirst His Last, I’m afraid I might be less than thrilled. I’m happy to hear that you’re happy with your name now. I agree with your reasons for changing it, and I hope my transition works out well too!

 
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Entangled (message)  2,616 posts, Sugar bee

There was a post very similar to this on A Practical Wedding, iirc. The idea being that you don’t have one date by which you need to decide and it’s not an either-or thing. I’m glad you’re comfortable with the choice you’ve made and are now feeling like it’s your choice and not something others make for you. :)

 
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Mrs. French Bulldog
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Mrs. French Bulldog (message)  7,730 posts, Bee Keeper

Great post Mrs O. I went back and forth on changing my name, hyphenating my name, maiden name as middle name… I considered them all. Ultimately I decided to last Mr Frenchie’s last name because is was important to him and I wanted to have the same last name as our children and him etc.
After our wedding I took my sweet time changing my name. I was also frustrated that people automatically assumed I was taking his last name. I found it was mostly older generations that assumed (in my case) so I tried not to let it bother me. Finally, almost a year after our wedding, when I got my license renewal notice in the mail, I decided to change it. Changing my name was just practical at that point. Ultimately, I’d had enough time to adjust to being a HisLastName. Also, I was tired of being two different people and having to remember who I was my maiden name with and who I was my married name with. /end ramble/

 
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NotYourTypicalBride (message)  1,294 posts, Bumble bee

Thank you for this post! I’m six weeks away from my wedding, and this decision is a big deal for me.

As in your situation, my FH doesn’t really care what I do, which only makes me want to change it as a gift to him for being so awesome. But I KNOW I’m going to experience the same feelings you did, and I will also be bothered by the lack of control over it.

So… I love that you present another option: Take it slow, and don’t feel pressured to make the decision in time for the wedding. Phew! That’s an incredible load off my mind right now.

So thanks again. :)

 
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crayfish (message)  4,844 posts, Honey bee

My grandmother wrote us a check as a gift, and addressed it as “Mr and Mrs Hisfirst Hislast”. I was completely insulted, and I don’t think I expected to be. It was like I signed this license, and now I don’t even have an identity worth mentioning? Also, I am hyphenating, and people assuming that I merely took his name completely has been a big psychological hurdle for me. I so hear you on this subject!

 
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Mrs. Snow (message)  916 posts, Busy bee

Oh, yes! Yes yes yes! I was pretty set on keeping all my names and adding Mr. Snow’s, but as soon I received the first Mr and Mrs. Hislast, I didn’t like it. Not one bit. I’m in my hyper-lefty land, so everyone (thankfully) asks if I’m changing my name, and I find myself saying over and over, “No, I’m not.” And I don’t think I am?

I realized in the face of losing my last name, I really really want to keep it. Weird!

 
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LittlestBirds (message)  2,605 posts, Sugar bee

Great post! I did mine like I was ripping off a band-aid: changed it on Facebook the morning after the wedding, and at the same time began forwarding all my email to my new email address under my new name. And I had already worked with our IT lady at work to set up forwarding to a new work email address under my new name automatically upon our wedding date. So I had no room for looking back or changing my mind. But I can see how that would be valuable; it does all feel incredibly different once you’re actually married.

 
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I personally think it’s kind of lame when you don’t change your name. When you get married you become a FAMILY, and not changing your name sort of contradicts that (in my opinion). I guess what bothers me most are the convenient excuses like being so tied to your identity with your maiden name and not changing it b/c of professional reasons. Things CAN be done to keep the career, publications, etc. that you have already established for yourself. I think that in most cases it is really not that difficult. Yes, it’s weird for a while adjusting to your new name. Yes, there is some nostalgia for your maiden name. It’s all part of the normal process of adjustment. Call me old-fashioned, but that’s just MY OPINION on the matter.

 
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Mrs. Taco
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Mrs. Taco (message)  950 posts, Busy bee

Ah, I’m totally in the same gray area. It’s changed on Facebook and on my email (though not in the email itself), but I’ve test-run it out and about when people ask me for my last name (for things that aren’t important like flights and whatnot). I think the gray area is kind of exciting, but it does also come rather quickly and spin out of control. My aunt-in-law called me Mrs. H at our Sunday (that’s right, day after) brunch, and it kind of took me aback, even though I liked it. I hate to say it, but there’s probably nothing you can do about the pacing on this matter :D

I put married names on people’s snail-mail cards out of laziness, mostly, so the names flow a bit better. But I’ve also found that people who have *not* changed their name don’t take it as personally when you use their maiden name, and vice-versa. I’ve definitely had a few people question why their name *wouldn’t* be the new-and-improved one.

 
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Mrs. Taco
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Mrs. Taco (message)  950 posts, Busy bee

@Mrs. Taco: That is, “But I’ve also found that people who have *not* changed their name don’t take it as personally when you use their presumed married name.”

 
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NotYourTypicalBride (message)  1,294 posts, Bumble bee

@Elle: What you call “convenient excuses” are very real and significant considerations for some of us. As an example, I lost my father when I was 16 years old, and I am marrying for the first time at 47. For more than 30 years, my last name has been one of my most precious connections to my father. So it is, indeed, strongly tied to my identity and I don’t take a name change lightly.

Second, I have spent the past 25 years establishing myself in my career. I have worked at various companies in my community and built a strong reputation with countless colleagues, partners, vendors and others in my industry. Should they someday receive my resume under a name they do not recognize, they may not know that it is me.

Finally, since we don’t intend to have or adopt children, the importance of establishing a “family name” is diminished in my case.

So tell me, what compelling reason do I have to change my name, other than a tradition based on a woman belonging to the man she marries (which goes against my grain), and (as I mentioned in my first post) as an act that would honor my husband-to-be (which is the only reason I would consider it)?

I would not call you “old-fashioned,” but perhaps a little closed minded that you would not understand how some of these issues might cause a woman to at least weigh the decision carefully to make sure she is changing her name for the right reason, and not because it is expected or because she might be harshly judged if she doesn’t. (Just MY opinion.)

 
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Miss Ravioli (message)  49 posts, Newbee

Great post! I feel the same way! I keep going back and forth on the idea of the whole name change once I get married in July. I do know though I like feeling like I have the control in the situation as you mentioned and that the choice isn’t being forced upon me.

 
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Mrs. Octopus (message)  1,446 posts, Bumble bee

@Mrs. Star: I feel like calling a woman by her husband’s first name is a VERY old-fashioned tradition!
@New Name: I’m honored to be your 2nd comment, haha! I’m taking it slow and steady because it still does feel uncomfortable for me too.
@paw: I am not at all okay with being called Mrs. HisFirst HisLast either.
@NotYourTypicalBride: Good, I’m glad it helped! There’s no actual reason to change your name on/right after your wedding day–feel it out! See what you think!
@crayfish: @Elle: What rubs me the wrong way about that stance is that it’s the woman who has to change HER name in order to become a family. Why doesn’t HE have to change HIS name to become a family? Why don’t we create a new name together? It’s most certainly a male-preferential tradition, not a gender-equal one.

Regardless, what I’m really not into is judging other women’s choices. We are, of course, all entitled to our opinions, but I just don’t see what’s progressive or helpful about turning up your nose at other women’s choices. I think it’s great that you’re happy with your choice and it makes you feel like a family (that’s why I’m changing mine too!), but it’s all just a matter of personal preference. I guess I just see calling what makes other women comfortable “lame” a fairly unhelpful position to take?
@Mrs. Taco: I’m still very much in the test-run phase too. I do get a kick out of writing his last name, but I’m still taking it slow.

 
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Mrs. Octopus, Boston, MA/Pittsburgh, PA Age and Occupation: 25, Grad Student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Graphics Operator for TV News Engagement Date: May 6th, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2010 Venue: Heinz Chapel Ceremony, Museum Reception About Me: When my best friend dragged me to a toga party in our freshmen year of college, I was not expecting to meet my future husband; but seven years later, here we are. I'm a crazy-organized planner at heart, and I am a great lover of random trivia, books, chocolate, blogs, new and exciting adventures, mockumentary-style television, and anything heavily flavored with bright orange fake cheese powder. We're planning a festive and fun mini-destination wedding in the place where we met: fabulous Pittsburgh, PA! I can't wait to marry the man I love!

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