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Ms. Sloth, Philadelphia Age and Occupation: 35, Account Manager and Fashion Blogger Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, Design Admin Engagement Date: December 25, 2009 Wedding Date: May 2011 Venue: Bartram's Garden About Me: I'm an internet junkie and music snob with a good eye for a bargain. I couldn't live without thrift store shopping, cheeseburgers, sushi, Coke Zero, websites devoted to silly photos of baby animals, Photoshop, and Mr. Sloth. Speaking of which, he and I are a pair of goofball homebody nerds who love our beagle (the most ridiculously adorable dog EVER) to an embarrassing degree. We're planning a low-key and intimate yet festive and quirky outdoor wedding with DIY details and deeply personal touches, and it's all taking place in the city where we fell in love and call home: Philadelphia.
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Proposal Power Struggle?

November 3rd, 2010 @ 3:26 pm by Ms. Sloth

I read it all the time on forums dedicated to women “waiting” for a proposal from their boyfriends: “Why does he get all the power in this situation?”

In my opinion, the short answer is that he doesn’t. Tired of waiting for a proposal? Propose to him. Don’t want to continue the relationship if a proposal isn’t in the near future? Then you need to decide if you want to stick around or end the relationship. These options may not be ideal, but they are there. Women do have some power.

But it’s true that in a traditional proposal scenario, women are in the passive role. We wait for our man to be ready to propose, we wait for him to save up for a ring, we wait for him to buy it, and we wait for him to create the perfect moment in which to present the ring and ask for our hand in marriage.

That didn’t work for me. I am not the passive one in our relationship. If anything, I’m the dominant one, not because I’m bossy, but because I have stronger opinions on just about everything, while Mr. S is more of a “go with the flow” type of dude. He goes with the flow so much, in fact, that if I hadn’t taken a role in the engagement process, who knows when we’d have gotten engaged?

Here’s how it went:

Late October 2009 - We were at a party that was winding down. We were drunkity drunk drunk. As we slumped on adjacent bar stools and exchanged inebriated terms of endearment, Mr. S said “You know what? I’m ready to get engaged.” Now, I’d been ready for about a year or more, but Mr. S hadn’t been. He always made it clear to me that he loved me and was prepared to spend the rest of his life with me. It wasn’t about his commitment to me and our relationship. He just wasn’t ready to take the official next step. And I was OK with that because I knew it would happen eventually, but I was still ready to go. So when he slurred, “Let’s do it!” I was thrilled…but wary.

The Next Day - I brought up our conversation from the night before: “You meant what you said last night, right?” His reply: “Just because I was drunk doesn’t mean that I didn’t mean it. Let’s get engaged.” He told me that he wanted my help picking out a ring, which was fine with me, and that he’d need some time to save up. He prepared me for the fact that money was tight, so it would probably be quite a while until he had the ring.

Early November - Although we weren’t engaged yet, I suggested checking out a venue. The boy agreed, and off we went. We liked it but weren’t sure. A few weeks later, we went to check out another one and fell in love with it.

Also in Early November - We were taking a walk in the city when we passed a used jewelry store. I saw a gorgeous ring in the window with a price tag that I couldn’t believe (in a good way). I dragged Mr. S inside, tried it on, and we were out of there half an hour later, with the ring in the boy’s pocket. I think that he was pretty shell-shocked at that point; he’d expected to be saving up for several months to buy a ring, but two weeks later, he paid cash for a totally affordable one. We were ahead of schedule.

After That - Mr. S put the ring in a secret place and told me that he’d give it to me when he was ready.

And Then - That’s where the trouble began. Although I didn’t want to be a nag, I found myself repeatedly asking Mr. S “Since you have it, can’t you just give it to me?” I didn’t need a big romantic event; I just wanted him to propose and hand me the ring. I was so excited about being so close—I just wanted to tell my mom and my friends, but I didn’t feel right about doing it without a ring to show them. And then I started getting annoyed because, while he and I had been on equal ground during the process up until then, now I was completely powerless.

Finally - Mr. S said to me “Look, I’m not holding out just for the hell of it. Maybe I want to surprise you and make it special.” To which I said, “Oh. OK.” And I realized that if the tradition of a special, romantic proposal was important to him, then I was fine with waiting until he was ready.

And then, at Christmas - He proposed. And it was simple, but perfect.

So there you go. We both had some control in the process, and at first I didn’t sit idly by, waiting for it to happen; but then I realized that being just a bit patient would make it that much more special. It wasn’t the most traditional process, but I’m so happy with the way it worked out. I ended up with a ring that I love (and that didn’t put Mr. S into debt), and most importantly, I’m getting married to the man I love.

Did you have an active role in getting engaged?

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31 Responses to “Proposal Power Struggle?”

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marieta (message)  339 posts, Helper bee

Love it. :)

Ours wasn’t traditional, either. I started the conversation, he finished it. And then I went ring-shopping on my own. He just came for the last day once I knew what I liked, and then we figured it out from there with the addition of my grandmother’s jewelry. I like that it was a mutual thing.

 
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Violet Violet (message)  985 posts, Busy bee

I had an active role for sure, but that’s me. I don’t sit on my hands and watch when it comes to any aspect of my life. But like Mr. S, my FI wanted to surprise me. So I showed him my favorite rings and waited for him to surprise me with a proposal.

 
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xtatic1 (message)  778 posts, Busy bee

Ours started when I sat him down for “a talk” where I wanted to make it known that I was ready and deserved to know what his plan was. His response “don’t worry about it, it will happen when it happens… sometime within a year”. That was the only time frame I got. I figured I would have to nag again at that point, he didn’t seem to be in a hurry. 2 months later he totally surprised me with the ring, he had known I was the one for nearly half a year and the plan was already in the works. It was nice to be surprised.

 
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mjchexum (message)  485 posts, Helper bee

oh man, our boys sound very much alike. If I had not finally brought it up and continued to unfortunately nag him about it, it probably never would have happened. Not because he was ready, or we weren’t sure or anything like that, he just takes him time doing things. Like you said about your boy, he’s just super laid back, and I’m an obsessive compulsive anxiety ridden control freak. So while I didn’t do the actual proposing, I certainly had a hand in making things happen.

 
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mjchexum (message)  485 posts, Helper bee

oh man, our boys sound very much alike. If I had not finally brought it up and continued to unfortunately nag him about it, it probably never would have happened. Not because he wasn’t ready, or we weren’t sure or anything like that, he just takes him time doing things. Like you said about your boy, he’s just super laid back, and I’m an obsessive compulsive anxiety ridden control freak. So while I didn’t do the actual proposing, I certainly had a hand in making things happen.

 
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mjchexum (message)  485 posts, Helper bee

oopps double post

 
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ScooterBride (message)  280 posts, Helper bee

I was kind of in a “Sh-t or get off the pot” mood about the whole relationship. I’ve known the guy more than a decade, and lived with him for several years. I’m almost pushing 30 now! I figured that I either needed to make things permanent, or move on. So I proposed with a cheesy poem I totally stole off the internet, and a ring pop.

 
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Rachel

I had a very active roll in getting engaged. We went to a bunch of different places (big chain jewelry store, independent jeweler, small family-owned company, etc.).

We finally chose a stone, a setting, and who to give our business to and I lent him half of the down payment, which he paid back to me over time.

After that, I was almost entirely in the dark of when he’d have it paid off and how he would propose.

It happend a little later than I was anticipating, but it was wonderful and perfect and I’m glad I got to be shocked and surprised.

 
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Kelly

Our story is a long one! I was ready to get married way before him, We both have been married before and were cautious. I did propose but I was turned down flatly (ouch) then his sister and brother-in-law propsed to me on some drunken holiday. But as you pointed out the choice to stay was mine. I felt committed to him and he to me so it was up to me if I wanted to stay knowing that I might never get the marriage I was wanting. But more than wanting a marriage I wanted one with him. So on our ten year anniversay after I had finally realized I didn’t want a life without my best friend and I would take our life together however it came, he got down on one knee with the most beautiful ring I have ever seen.

 
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Miss Knitting (message)  1,072 posts, Bumble bee

I love your egagment story. It’s so honest. I definitely took an active role in getting engaged.

 
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mjchexum (message)  485 posts, Helper bee

Also, I’ve heard a few people make comments like “oh she forced him into it.” and whenever I hear this I always think “well of course she did! otherwise nothing would ever happen!” Guys are so content with keeping things the way they are. if they’re happy , then why change things? I think girls HAVE to have an active role in getting engaged.

 
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la boome (message)  200 posts, Helper bee

This is very similar to my proposal too! I don’t think it makes it any less special that I was involved. :)

 
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moderndaisy (message)  6,607 posts, Bee Keeper

Amen, sista! You are preaching to the choir!! :) If it weren’t for me giving DH a deadline, we would still be dating with no talk of marriage right now - he even admits it!!!

 
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Mary Poppins (message)  107 posts, Blushing bee

Woo hoo! I like to hear a woman who knows what she wants and pursues it! Why should we wait for men to do the asking? :D

 
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Miss Sloth (message)  3,184 posts, Sugar bee

Well, I’m not saying that we should be nagging, per se. And I regret the time when I did bug him. I wouldn’t have ever said anything if I didn’t know that he was ready to get married.

I just think that, as women, we need to take responsibility for our own futures.

@mjchexum: I don’t look at it as forcing him into it. He wanted to get married. He just didn’t want to deal with the task of searching for and saving for a ring. It wasn’t the marriage he was dragging his feet on, it was the errands associated with it.

 
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SamanthaSadlier (message)  574 posts, Busy bee

I could have almost written this exact same post word for word. LOL. I am not passive at all when it comes to getting what I want, which is probably why I was the one to make all the moves in the beginning of the relationship :)

 
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Entangled (message)  2,616 posts, Sugar bee

I am very uncomfortable with power imbalances in our relationship. He calls me Little Miss Bossypants sometimes, but he is a bossy dude too. We tend to boss each other around constantly and mostly laugh off and ignore what we’re being told to do.

We knew for a long time we would get married eventually - it started out as a joke, but we quickly realized we were serious and started talking timing. There were a lot of drunken proposals not to be taken seriously. When it came time to really talk about getting engaged, planning a wedding, etc, he asked me if I wanted a traditional proposal. I told him we didn’t, and we picked a time when we would start telling people we were engaged.

To me, this is romantic. This is why nobody thinks I’m a romantic. :P

 
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JuneBride_26June2010 (message)  1,739 posts, Bumble bee

i have to admit - the role reversal in the proposal situation has always scared me - but I love it when a woman DOES propose to her man. :)

Technically, no, I did not have a role in our getting engaged (other than saying yes, lol) - but I DID ask him to marry me much earlier than our wedding date…long story short - we planned our wedding for June 2010 (and that’s when it was…) but because he was desperate for surgery in April 2009, I brought it up saying “well, we’re marrying anyways - marry me now!” so the next weekend we did! He had his surgery and we were legally married a year and a few months before our actual wedding. :)

 
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Ms Cheetah (message)  1,188 posts, Bumble bee

I think proposals shouldn’t belong to one gender–proposals for all! That’s why we both proposed :)

 
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MaggieMay7 (message)  35 posts, Newbee

I completely agree! I am def. the one that started the conversation about marriage. Well kinda- My man told me that he wanted to marry me when we were 16 (but of course that couldnt happen) but I def have shown him 50+ rings that I love, and lets just say all the jewlery stores have his name number and what ring I love lol

 
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Ms. Sloth, Philadelphia Age and Occupation: 35, Account Manager and Fashion Blogger Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, Design Admin Engagement Date: December 25, 2009 Wedding Date: May 2011 Venue: Bartram's Garden About Me: I'm an internet junkie and music snob with a good eye for a bargain. I couldn't live without thrift store shopping, cheeseburgers, sushi, Coke Zero, websites devoted to silly photos of baby animals, Photoshop, and Mr. Sloth. Speaking of which, he and I are a pair of goofball homebody nerds who love our beagle (the most ridiculously adorable dog EVER) to an embarrassing degree. We're planning a low-key and intimate yet festive and quirky outdoor wedding with DIY details and deeply personal touches, and it's all taking place in the city where we fell in love and call home: Philadelphia.

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