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Mrs. Mary Jane, Grand Forks, ND Age and Occupation: 26, Instructional Designer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Lead Programmer Engagement Date: February 28, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: City Hall About Me: I'm a career woman on the surface and a homemaker at heart. I love fast cars and high heels, and my favorite food is cake. Mr. Mary Jane and I are both full-time employees and students, and we just bought our first house. We love to curl up on the couch with buttery popcorn, Sour Patch Kids, and the latest Netflix arrival -- whenever we can get a break from everyday life.
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I love this post because it addresses something I see all too-often among ’waiting’ girlfriends. We get so impatient, so focused on that ring and that wedding day, that things get ugly. We might even have our beloved fiances-to-be wondering if they REALLY want to propose to such crazy women! Wedding days come and go, but your relationship is what matters. Stay solid!

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I’m embarrassed to admit it, but I may have gotten a little obsessed with the impending engagement between the time that I helped pick out the ring and when Mr. Mary Jane chose to give it to me.

It wasn’t the ring itself that I wanted. I mean, of course I wanted the ring, in its beautiful sparkly gorgeousness… but what I wanted more than anything was to be engaged (and then married) to Mr. Mary Jane. We were so close. Sooooo close. And I was SO ready for the next step.

I tried to be a mature, compassionate adult about the whole thing. I convinced myself that I found it sweet that Mr. MJ wanted to be traditional about the proposal. He is, after all, a door-opening, coat-taking, heavy-stuff-carrying gentleman. It was nice of him to include me in the ring-picking process, which I enjoyed very much. I would let him do this himself, on his own time.

Growing up, upon finding out about something fun I were going to do in the near future, I used to make myself sick with excitement. I suspect it’s the same with many children, but I’ve never really grown out of it. Instead of a stomach ache, adult me just gets really, really obsessed with the matter at hand. Say, for example, Mr. Mary Jane and I had decided to get a kitten, but we wouldn’t get him for a month. I’d spend that whole month reading everything there is to know about kittens, looking at pictures of kittens, visiting kittens in the humane society, talking to kitten-owners about their vets, and buying cute crap for the kitten to play with when it arrived. I’d probably even make color-coded kitten-related charts. I like to be in control, and I like to plan. And when I can’t get what I want right now, I want to know when I will get it so that I can prepare. I have no excuse for this; it’s a flaw of mine. (And yes, I’m an only child. What gave it away?)

This surprise-engagement thing really bothered me. Again, I wasn’t after the ring, but it was symbolic for the next step to come. I was confused as to why Mr. Mary Jane didn’t want us to be engaged right away. I wondered how long I’d have to wait. I’m generally a “glass-half-empty” person, especially when it comes to matters concerning my character. I wondered what was wrong with me. Was he thinking twice about our future? (I have NO reason to suspect this.) Why wasn’t he as excited to get engaged as I was? I kept pushing the subject. I got annoying. I tried to get him to talk about wedding styles. About guest lists. I sent him links to wedding stuff. He was pretty tolerant, but I knew I shouldn’t be bugging him so much. I was being dumb. I knew it meant a lot to him to do the proposal his own way, on his own time. But I couldn’t let it drop.

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I got pushier and pushier as time passed. Valentine’s day came and went, but not without me wondering if maybe he had the ring - maybe it was somehow possible. He gave me a beautiful pink marquise ring for my right hand for Valentine’s Day (along with other thoughtful gifts).

I started to get angry about the whole situation. I am the first to admit that I have traditional values regarding family. I would love to be a housewife, I love when Mr. Mary Jane does manly things for me to help me out (even though I’m quite capable), and I love being ’taken care of’ by him. But this proposal thing had my feminist waters boiling. Weren’t we supposed to be doing this as equals? As a couple? Why did HE get to see the ring? Why should HE get to choose when to propose? It just made me jealous and mad. I felt like he was stringing me along, teasing me, or maybe even trying to teach me a lesson about patience. It was bringing out the worst in me.

What bothered me the most is that he had admitted that he wasn’t thinking about it much at all, most of the time. He was very busy with his job and with many projects for his classes. Rational me thought this was very understandable. But obsessive, anxious me didn’t understand why this matter wasn’t important enough for him to take some time to think about. And another part of me was envious that he COULD stop thinking about it. I couldn’t, and my interest in work and school was paling in comparison to my obsession with the engagement. Then a good friend got engaged and started talking all about dresses and other weddingy stuff. I was so jealous! But also thrilled for her, of course.

Mr. Mary Jane eventually had a talk with me. He put it very tactfully, but basically he’d noticed that I was being clingy and weird. If he went somewhere, I wanted to know where, and why, and when he’d be back. If he stayed home, I wanted to know what he was doing/thinking. I really wouldn’t leave the poor guy alone. He explained that he really wanted to “do this right”. He wanted to put a lot of thought in to the engagement and proposal process. He didn’t want to casually toss me the ring - which is what would happen if he was under a time-crunch to propose when he had so much other pressing stuff going on in his life. He wanted time to really think about it - to really figure out what he wanted to do. It was hard for him to get any time to think about us because when he wasn’t working on academic or professional problems, he was being bombarded with questions from me.

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I knew I was being terribly unfair to him (in my mind and to his face), and I really did want to give him a chance to do this his way. I wanted him to be as excited about it as I was, and he couldn’t have that chance unless he was given time to think and plan. I didn’t want this to be a sour experience for Mr. Mary Jane. And I didn’t want him to remember our engagement as a time when he finally just had to Give The Crazy Lady What She Wanted So She’d Stop Freaking Out Already.

He asked me if I’d be OK with him showing the ring to other people before I saw it. I asked a bunch of questions about that (Who? Why? When?) but he wouldn’t budge. Finally I conceded. Although I didn’t like that it might “spoil” me being able to show it off to close friends or family, he insisted that this person or people wouldn’t be people I’d be rushing to show it to anyway. I figured that maybe he wanted to talk to his dad about it, or maybe he was going to call my dad? (That’d be weird, I thought… and he actually DID call my dad as a matter of fact!) Maybe he wanted to confide in a friend. I chewed on those thoughts and a million others well in to the night, long after he was asleep and our conversation was over.

Finally, I decided to try to let it go. Not just the “who’s he going to show it to?” but the whole thing. The whole damn proposal. Just let it go. If he were to propose tomorrow? That’d be great. In a month? Great. Six months? (Well, that’s pushing it, I might get a little anxious by then. :)) I had to stop thinking about it. I had to pretend I didn’t know about it. I had to pretend it didn’t matter. I had to do this not only for him, but also for me. If we both wanted a special and memorable proposal, I had to stop second-guessing all of his activities, wondering if this could be The Moment, or if he’s planning to do it this weekend, or thinking that now would have been a great time to do it. I didn’t want to later be gushing to my girlfriends: “Well, the proposal went like this: I badgered and prodded at him until he finally shouted ’JUST TAKE THE DAMN THING!’ and I said ’YAYYY!’”

It’s insanely hard to stop thinking about a subject of obsession. My mom has said that she knows when I’ve got something on my mind because I pretty much stop talking. That’s because when I force myself to stop thinking about something, I stop thinking about everything. There’s nothing more important than That Which Cannot Be Thought About, so I just kind of clam up. Mr. MJ noticed this right away, the morning after our talk. He pointed it out, so I told him I was trying not to think about it anymore. No sense in being dishonest. He told me that if I was not OK with that, then we should be talking about it.

I’d like to say that I was able to successfully lay off and be patient, but I wasn’t. I think I got better, but I was still pretty engulfed by the whole process. He proposed within a few days of our talk, partially (I think) because he was tired of seeing me looking sad and withdrawn. His proposal was perfect for me (I got to be engaged to my man!), but I wonder whether it was everything he’d envisioned (if I even gave him a moment to envision anything, that is).

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To all the almost-engaged ladies out there: listen to me. Don’t do this to yourselves. And if you can’t help but obsess, don’t take it out on your man. Remember who he is and why you want to marry him so badly. Showing him your ugliest, greediest side when he’s trying to plan an uber-romantic experience for you both is not the preferred way to get what you want. He wants the best for you both. You probably proudly take care of yourself pretty well in most aspects. Let him have this one thing. I wish I’d done a better job of that.

Have you got an engagement or wedding planning moments you’re not proud of?

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cbrydon
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cbrydon (message)  344 posts, Helper bee

oh jeez…..this is ME, right now! I’m waiting on the ring, I know it’s coming in the next month or so…..so now….I’m just trying to bite my tongue! And am focusing my energy on putting together a glorious wedding binder….that no one needs to look at but me!

 
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Lauren

Gah! I’m so there at this very moment. Did you sneak into my head? We had another sobbing “I can’t stand waiting anymore!” talk last night. He’s such a trooper and so patient with me, but it’s so hard to be patient and wait for him to do it in his own time.

 
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Entangled
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Entangled (message)  2,616 posts, Sugar bee

I know there are both men and women who love the traditional proposal, but for myself? I hate it so very much. (imagine Cartman voice talking about how he hates Kyle) I’m phenomenally grateful that my fiance was able to recognize that about me even before I did… he specifically asked a few months ahead of time if I’d want a romantic surprise proposal or just to decide together when it was time. It only took a few minutes of thinking about it to choose the latter.

Like I said, this can be an awesome moment and a really fantastic memory and story for a lot of people, but it was not for me. I was worried I might regret that decision, but the more I think about it the more happy I am that I went with my gut (and that I have a fiance who knows me well enough and is nontraditional enough to suggest it. It would have been a lot harder if I felt like I was taking something away from him by not wanting him to propose).

 
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msmarathon (message)  163 posts, Blushing bee

who was the person he wanted to show the ring to? just curious.

 
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Miss OBG

See this is why I was so glad I had no idea when it was coming! I actually picked a fight about commitment with my man THE DAY HE PAID FOR THE RING (that I didn’t know about), and he exploded and told me I was being ridiculous and unfair and to leave it alone. A month later, he proposed, and I was surprised and delighted, and glad I had laid off him about it.

 
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MrsSl82be
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MrsSl82be (message)  8,095 posts, Bee Keeper

i am so glad that i didn’t even care about an engagement when he proposed, I really wasn’t even thinking it would happen any time soon when it did. I couldn’t imagine going through that

 
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Paper Rose
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Paper Rose (message)  174 posts, Blushing bee

Thank you, I really really needed that. Really really. I keep creeping into wedding planning, waiting for the day he pops the question. I made a binder, but there’s nothing in it. I bought a book of checklists, nothing’s checked…because I AM NOT PLANNING A WEDDING YET. Goodness, I’m a member of this site. Just waiting, waiting and I’m going insane and maybe taking him with me. On his request we have a talked about rings, he took me to a store and I tried things on because he wanted to see what they look like on me. He asked me for specifics (my dream ring is my avatar…) But I don’t know if he has bought anything,or shopped without me or when he is planning on asking.

So yeah, I needed this. So glad you re-posted, I’m new here and might not have seen it if you didn’t.

 
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sweetcV2B (message)  123 posts, Blushing bee

Wow…I really need that!! Thank you so much for posting this again. It helps to know there’s other girls in exactly the same boat. And it’s a good reality check too - I think I need to print this out and read it again when I start to feel crazy about it all over again!

@Lauren, I had a meltdown about it last night too! Can you believe the perfect timing of this post?!

 
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LittleMsSunshine

I was there too, and I am usually extremely rational. It’s infuriating. What made mine worse is that he got into P.A. school in another state shortly before he proposed. I knew he was going (and I was staying here to finish my Ph.D), but I was sure that we’d be engaged before he got in anywhere. And then months went by and he got into school in Tennessee and everyone started asking inappropriate questions with quizzical looks, like “umm…so is Ms. Sunshine going with you or….” It was torture.

Turns out the “Snow of 100 years” in D.C. messed up his plans. He wanted to ask when it was pretty out (!) so….he waited until the entire city thawed out in March. Thanks for reposting. It’s always a good reminder of how happy I now am. :0)

 
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Kinsey

I turned to my ALMOST fiance while reading this article and told him I must’ve unknowingly written it. I’ve been going through this same thing for a few months now, and while I might not have shown my absolute worst side, I have definitely hinted around not-so-subtly (every day) that anytime he wants to propose would be great! The main reason (excuse) is that we’re moving away a month after we graduate college, so we both know that we need to get married in between those events–as in, May 2011. I recently found out that the venue I wanted was almost all booked for this spring/summer. So I booked it! That’s right…not even engaged. He’s been telling me for months know that the proposal was coming “soon” since I’ve been freaking out, but our anniversary came and went last weekend still without a ring, and I may or may not have broken down a little. Finally he just had to tell me the ring was still being made and that’s why he hasn’t proposed yet. I suspect it’s coming within the next week, but I do feel kind of guilty now for taking all the surprise out of it. I am a serious planner/control freak, so I totally feel your pain!

 
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Erica

Honestly, I don’t think you were being irrational or overly demanding by expecting a proposal soon after your picked the ring together!
But in truth, I don’t agree with this whole picking the ring together prior to the proposal. Where’s the surprise then? The excitement? What you get is the “oh finally we’re engaged” feeling of release after weeks (or months) of being tense and expecting a proposal to come every evening / weekend / time you go out together. I think that if your man is ready to propose, he should just do it. If he doesn’t want to buy a ring before the proposal in fear you won’t like it, you can go buy it together later…
Why buy a ring and then not propose? Of course it becomes a horrible situation for both, duh!
Great post by the way

 
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Katie

Incredible post, and so helpful to so many women. Thank you!

 
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Deborah

I’m in the same boat! I chose my ring online from an antique dealer, so I’ve seen pics. The ring has been hidden somewhere in our house since the start of October and it’s driving me mad! I’ve also been told exactly the week in which he’s going to give me it. We’re going on holiday to Morocco on the 3rd of Jan, and it’s coming with us!

We’ve also picked a date, and i STILL can’t tell anyone yet until he does his thing!!!

 
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Mrs. Mary Jane
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Mrs. Mary Jane (message)  1,970 posts, Buzzing bee

@msmarathon: Honestly… I can’t remember! His parents, I think. I originally wrote this post around 2 years ago… :)

@Erica: You’re right, it totally takes the surprise out of it. It worked for us mainly because I had such specific ideas of what I wanted in a ring, and he wanted the help. But knowing he had it was really really tough!!

Thanks everyone, for the comments. I’m glad it’s helping!!

 
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Rachel

Oh my word, I needed to hear this so much. My boyfriend and I agreed that we are going to get married a year ago, and now that he is in grad school and I’m about to get my degree as well, I’m getting impatient.

I’m obsessing and dropping not-so-subtle hints and being a jerk about it, but I can’t seem to stop. Glad to know I’m not the only one :\

 
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@Kinsey: Update girls, he proposed the day after I read this post! The ring is beautiful and I couldn’t be more excited. Don’t lose hope, because when it finally happens it will be perfect.

 
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you guys are all a bit pathetic!

 
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Mrs. Mary Jane, Grand Forks, ND Age and Occupation: 26, Instructional Designer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Lead Programmer Engagement Date: February 28, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: City Hall About Me: I'm a career woman on the surface and a homemaker at heart. I love fast cars and high heels, and my favorite food is cake. Mr. Mary Jane and I are both full-time employees and students, and we just bought our first house. We love to curl up on the couch with buttery popcorn, Sour Patch Kids, and the latest Netflix arrival -- whenever we can get a break from everyday life.

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