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Mrs. Zebra, Providence, RI Age and Occupation: 24 Marketing/Costume Designer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26 Management/Firefighter Engagement Date: December 12, 2008 Wedding Date: March 2011 Venue: The Providence Biltmore About Me: I'm a small town New England girl with an affinity for procrastination, crossing the proverbial line, and putting her foot in her mouth. I'm a lover of history, all seasons, sewing and Incubus. I design costumes on the side for my old high school's theatre department, which is where I met my sexy man. Our motto for our Big Fat Lebanese/Portuguese/Irish near-300 person wedding is "the more the merrier"! We are marrying in a Catholic ceremony and are hammering out the details of our Victorian-inspired reception.
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When brides talk about a name change they are normally talking about their last names.

And I Don't Even Know My *First* Name  :  wedding legal providence Zeebskate

The Kate Debate

As you may know, I am obsessed with the British monarchy. With the royal engagement, I have been Googling for new information with reckless abandon. I found a little something that I find slightly upsetting. I’m about to get that off of my chest.

The palace has “changed” Kate’s name to Catherine. At least, that is what is being speculated. The reason being is that Catherine sounds stately and they are trying to get away from the moniker “Waity Katie.” So based on that slightly less than factual accord—let’s discuss.

I have gone by my nickname since birth. For clarity’s sake, let’s say my nickname is “Kate” and my real name is “Catherine.” If someone yells out Catherine, I look for my roommate from college. The only people who refer to me as Catherine are my mother and Zeb, but even then it is sporadic. I am Kate. I will always be Kate. When I was younger I always thought my name would change over to Catherine once I got to college, but it never happened.

You may wonder what the heckleberries is the big deal. Well let me tell you. When you identify by one name and you are legally another—which do you use for, say, your marriage ceremony? Obviously the documents will have my legal name on them, but what about when the priest says, “Do you, Kate, take this man…”? If he says “Catherine” it would be equivalent, in my eyes, to him saying the incorrect name. Also, what about the wedding invitations? Most people don’t know Catherine. Hell, Zeb didn’t even know my legal name for a few years. I still don’t think he can spell it.

I resent that Kate has to be Catherine—if that is indeed true. It’s an antiquated (I know—the monarchy is antiquated) belief that one must “mature” (for lack of a better word) in order to be married. Tom Cruise did it to Katie Holmes, too, when he had her change her name to “Kate.” I grew up with many people who were legally given the name Katie. Are they less mature because of their name? Do they get a bye because that’s legally their name? Or should they change it as they marry to seem more serious? I don’t get it.

I know it is a different kind of name change, and believe me, it’s an adjustment just thinking about changing my last name. I know some of you might not be able to relate. It is a little nerve-wracking to think people might be expecting me to change my last and first name. Of course I very rarely do things that people expect of me. Besides, my real first name and his last name together sound very much like an English school marm. I’m totally keeping the Kate.

So I wonder…is Kate Middleton wondering who the hell Catherine Windsor is?

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45 Responses to “And I Don’t Even Know My *First* Name”

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Catherine
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Catherine (message)  653 posts, Busy bee

Well, I think it’s a good name… haha.

But I know what you mean, kind of weird to change it!

 
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KateByDesign
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KateByDesign (message)  867 posts, Busy bee

So…strange…haha.

My name is Kate! Full name Kathryn. Now that I’m getting married I’m thinking of going by Kathryn now because it sounds much better with my upcoming new last name!

 
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Ms Katz

I have the same deal, only my nickname is considerably different from my legal name, so no one just accepts it as a diminutive. I’m having serious thoughts about legally changing it. I think without that no one would care if you put “Kate” on the invitations and stuff, but getting around what your officiant says during the ceremony could be a little more complicated. Of course, it depends on your officiant. Since it’s just first names in most ceremonies, using a nickname might not be a big deal, or legally problematic or anything.

 
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Gilneas
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Gilneas (message)  1,393 posts, Bumble bee

Both my husband and I go by a nickname of our full name. He sometimes use his full first name - I never do. On our wedding invite, we used my nickname and his full first name, but it was hotly debated.

All I can think about was how Sarah the Duchess of York was always just known as “Fergie.” How is that less dignified than Kate?

 
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Miss Cinnamon Bun
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Miss Cinnamon Bun (message)  1,100 posts, Bumble bee

I think that during your ceremony, it’s totally fine to use the nickname, and on the invites too. It’s understandable that the actual legal document you sign has your real legal name, but I think that can be the only place that has the longer name.

Doesn’t Prince William have a string of names? I’d be studying hard if I was Kate!

 
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blondeeebuckeye
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blondeeebuckeye (message)  1,083 posts, Bumble bee

I thought that I read that Catherine was her actual name, and she’s been trying to get people to call her that for awhile, but so far, only her friends call her Catherine. I think I read that on HuffPo!

 
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Kate

This is all rumours though… And if it’s true, it’s Kate herself that now wants to be known as Catherine… and the Tom Cruise thing… again, rumour!

 
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KLloyd1 (message)  818 posts, Busy bee

My real name is Kaitlyn but my family, close friends and fiance call me Kait. I think its odd when people who dont know me call me Kait but the Fi likes to introduce me as Kait all the time because that what he calls me. I think Kait sounds better with what my new last name will be so I may end up going by Kait more once I am married…which im fine with as long as I dont get called Kaity!

 
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ILikePink
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ILikePink (message)  1,408 posts, Bumble bee

Catherine Elizabeth is her given name.

 
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fleur99 (message)  37 posts, Newbee

I have a similar Kate/Katherine situation, but Katherine is used at work, business, etc. and Kate is used at home and with friends. Many people only know me by one or the other name. It’s funny, because my fiance has the same thing with his names. We used our given names on the formal invitation, but our nicknames on less formal stuff like the website address and pre-party invitations. We put our formal names on our thank you cards, but I’ve been signing with our nick names, if the people know us by those. We’ll probably use the formal names in our traditional church ceremony (i.e., formal), but our nick names when we’re announced to our friends/family. So in other words, we’re using both!

 
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codydidwhat
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codydidwhat (message)  132 posts, Blushing bee

Oh I’ve gone around and around on this one too - I’m in the same boat. There’s my legal name and then the one that I’ve always gone by. I’ve actually been asked why I don’t legally change my first name, but my real name is my grandmother’s name and I’d hate to lose that. At the same time, the invites and what we’ll say in the ceremony is definitely going to be my nickname - which is the name that everyone knows me by!

 
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Amber

My cousin has the same issue, except mainly family call her by her middle name (D’Lea), and everyone in the general population call her Alida. It’s because her great grandmother, whom she was named after, doesn’t even like the name and refuses to hear her own name in her presence.

 
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jordynrose
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jordynrose (message)  6,351 posts, Bee Keeper

I think you should use the name you go by on your invitations, ceremony, etc., however your legal name should be on any legal documents (e.g. marriage license).

 
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centralcoastbride (message)  67 posts, Worker bee

Gah! Same problem here!! I have always gone by a nickname, my parents named me with the intention of calling me by my nickname. I think if I put my legal name on wedding invitations half our friends wouldn’t know who it was except because of his name. Also none of his family knows my legal name. It is my name but it isn’t really MY name. Does that make sense? Anywho I don’t think I could ever change to using my legal name. Plus I don’t think he would like it. It just wouldn’t be me!

 
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tetorger
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tetorger (message)  138 posts, Blushing bee

My fi goes by Tim instead of Timothy, even though his parents still call him that. He wanted to be Tim on the invites, which is fine with me. I only call him Timothy when he forgets to wash the dishes or something :)

 
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mightywombat
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mightywombat (message)  3,345 posts, Sugar bee

I have a similar situation, and I can’t decide what to put on my invitations/use in the ceremony! Professionally, I go by “Margaret,” (to take an example, not my actual name) and my dad often calls me that. I also went through a phase in jr. high when I wanted to be called “Margaret” rather than “Meggy,” which is how EVERYBODY knows me now. I like both equally. FI has only ever called me “Meggy.” But I also prefer how “Margaret” looks written out on the invitation…

 
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kate6214
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kate6214 (message)  286 posts, Helper bee

I’m a Kate and had Katherine on my invitations and programs but said Kate in the ceremony.

 
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Mrs. Glasses (message)  2,741 posts, Sugar bee

I am obsessed with the upcoming royal wedding day! Mr. G, who is actually English, rolls his eyes at me! Anywho, Mr. G has gone by his shortened name since college but for him, the choice was quite clear - he went by his full, given name on anything and everything for the wedding. He’s such a traditionalist sometimes, it’s scary!

 
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mrspaetz
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mrspaetz (message)  3,805 posts, Honey bee

I think it’s just making her sound more “official” in how she is formally referred to. I’m sure she’s still gonna go by “Kate” in personal circles!

 
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asunw
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asunw (message)  550 posts, Busy bee

I go by Amanda at work, school, etc. Everyone else calls me Sunny and unless I’m at work I don’t notice when anyone says Amanda.
We are doing Sunny on our Save the Dates and Amanda on our invites. I never considered being called anything but Amanda at the ceremony but maybe I should consider it, hmm. Thanks for the thought provoking post!

 
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Mrs. Zebra, Providence, RI Age and Occupation: 24 Marketing/Costume Designer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26 Management/Firefighter Engagement Date: December 12, 2008 Wedding Date: March 2011 Venue: The Providence Biltmore About Me: I'm a small town New England girl with an affinity for procrastination, crossing the proverbial line, and putting her foot in her mouth. I'm a lover of history, all seasons, sewing and Incubus. I design costumes on the side for my old high school's theatre department, which is where I met my sexy man. Our motto for our Big Fat Lebanese/Portuguese/Irish near-300 person wedding is "the more the merrier"! We are marrying in a Catholic ceremony and are hammering out the details of our Victorian-inspired reception.

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