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Mrs. Hot Cocoa, Boston/Los Angeles Age and Occupation: 31, JD/PhD Student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 32, Medical Student Engagement Date: May 30, 2008 Wedding Date: March, 2009 Blogging Since: April, 2008 Venue: Ritz Carlton, Marina Del Rey About Me: I am a professional student by day and an amateur cupcake taster, bargain shopper, and wedding planner by night. I am obsessed with NPR, the Food Network, paper, dance shows, Anthropologie, post-structuralist theory, Weddingbee!, "The Office," and celebrity gossip. When not procrastinating from my dissertation, I spend time catering to Jellyby, our overly anxious shih tzu, and getting to know Mr. Hot Cocoa. We have only been dating for fifteen years, so it's like I'm in love with a stranger! From the East Coast, we are planning a Jewish-Chinese Extravaganza in L.A., where we both grew up.
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I chose this post because it reminded me when I was knee-deep in wedding details that (as I wrote in another post) a wedding is not a single “perfect day.” Instead, it’s a long process that begins with the moment you declare your commitment to marry, encompasses actions and decisions both significant and banal, and involves discussion, compromise, and community. It’s about the joining of two families, two cultures, two worldviews, not just about the joining of two people or the throwing of one awesome party. As I reread it now, this post still evokes the sense of adventure, love, commitment, and trepidation I felt—and still feel—about becoming a Chewish wife.

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I’ve mentioned before that I’m in the process of converting to Judaism, and I’ve promised to write a longer post about my decision to convert and what the conversion process entails. So here goes a loooong two-part post…

The popular assumption is that anyone who converts to Judaism for marriage does so only after being pressured into it (usually by a naggy future mother-in-law, whom I’ll call “Estelle,” after George Costanza’s mother). “My darling baby boy. You can’t marry a shiksa!” kvetches Estelle. “Did you eat? Are you eating? Vy are you so thin? Is that shiksa not feeding you?” But Mr. HC’s family has never expressed any concern about his marrying “outside of the tribe” or put any pressure on me to go Jew. To the contrary, they’re to this day incredulous that I’d want to do such a thing!

What led me to convert was this:

Judaism has played a very important role in Mr. HC’s life. His closest friends are those he made in Hebrew school, who bunked with him in the “dork tent” in Jewish summer camp, and who traveled with him to Israel. He wanted our future children to have these experiences as much as I wanted our children to celebrate their Chinese heritage. He hopes that our children will feel “at home” in both cultures. I, on the other hand, hope that our children will inhabit a corporate identity, such that they are not sometimes Jewish and sometimes Chinese, but rather always a union of both. But however our children choose to deal with the identity question, we know that we want them to be truly bicultural, to be Chinese and Jewish.

The Chinese part is easy: I’m as chinky as they come. FOP, yo (that’s “fresh off the plane” for those of you not hip to the immigrant child lingo). The Jewish part, however, is harder. Since Judaism is matrilineal, in order for our children to be Jewish, I’d have to be Jewish.

While that is my primary impetus for converting, I’ve always been drawn to Judaism. I grew up in a part of L.A. that had a sizeable Jewish population. I have probably sipped more Shirley Temples at bar and bat mitzvahs than many Jews-by-birth. In fact, here’s a picture of me leaving for my first bar mitzvah. No, young un’s, that is not a lamp shade around my ass; that was actually a trendy dress style back in the day. Also check out my sad attempt at teased bangs. And my super long faux pearl earrings from Claires. Clearly, I thought I was awesome.

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[Hot Cocoa, circa 1990, all ready to slow dance to Belinda Carlisle.]

Anyway, this is all to say that Judaism has never really felt foreign to me. Since Mr. HC and I started dating when I was sixteen (and I dated two Jewish boys before him!), I was always surrounded by Jewish culture, and have been struck by how the values of Judaism—the respect for one’s ancestors, the love of family, the focus on education—were so similar to those of my Chinese family.

Then in college I took a class on the Parable in the Western Tradition, which looked at influence of Jewish writings on modern literature. And I figured out that the approach of Judaism toward texts—the whole culture is focused around interpretation and debate of texts—was completely suited to my worldview. I’m a lawyer and a literature scholar— could there be any religion more appropriate?!

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To say that I felt an affinity with Judaism, though, is not to say that I didn’t have some doubts. Quite often, the thing that is difficult for those who convert is the taking on of a minority consciousness and identity. Objectively speaking, it’s pretty weird to want to become a part of a group that has been marginalized, shunned, and persecuted since time immemorial.

That aspect of it was not so hard for me. As a Chinese-American and an immigrant, I have always had a minority, diasporic consciousness and identity. This is not to say that being Jewish is like being any other minority. Indeed, one of the tough questions I’ve been working out is what it means to be both Jewish and Chinese and American—how these identities interact, complicate, challenge, and enrich one another. But it is to say that I don’t expect to wake up the day after my conversion and be inhabiting a marginalized status that I never understood before.

What was— is—difficult for me, though, is the God thing. While my family is Buddhist, I’ve always been agnostic—not bold enough to be atheist, but too humble to insist that no higher entity exists. Mr. HC is agnostic, as are most of our Jewish friends and family. But it’s one thing to be agnostic when one is born into a religion, and quite another to embrace a monotheistic religion while struggling with the concept of one God.

I’m still struggling. Mightily. But here’s what makes me think Judaism is a right fit for me: the rabbis with whom I’m studying are not only okay with my struggling, they welcome it—encourage it. My sponsoring rabbi (*more about this tomorrow, when I write about the conversion process) encourages me to be open to the concept of holiness, is careful not to characterize God as “He” or to anthropomorphize God, and allows me to ask the big, difficult, head-hurting questions. I don’t think I would be converting if Judaism were a religion that insists on blind faith. It just wouldn’t make sense to me if a group of people who have suffered a Holocaust can have an unvexed relationship with God.

Do you and your fiance/e come from different religious or cultural backgrounds? Are you considering converting? How are you melding your respective religions or cultures into a family identity?

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17 Responses to “Best of the ‘Bee - Choosing Judaism”

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kirabee
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kirabee (message)  1,402 posts, Bumble bee

Oh Cocoa, you’ve always been one of my ultimate, favorite bees. I’m still in the process of deciding whether or not to convert and your old posts are still so informative and helpful to me. Thanks so much for re-posting this!

 
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Mrs. Trail Mix (message)  6,328 posts, Bee Keeper

This is an incredible post, so well-written and well-thought…Thanks for sharing your experience with us (and a belated welcome to the tribe! ;) )

 
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PitBulLover
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PitBulLover (message)  8,314 posts, Bee Keeper

Wow Im really glad you chose this for the best of the bee. Ive been married to my Jewish husband for just over 3 months and have recently started thinking that I might want to convert. I, like you, had a similar upbringing with Judaism and have always felt an affinity towards it. I’d love to hear more about your conversion!

 
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feministbride
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feministbride (message)  283 posts, Helper bee

Thanks so much for reposting. I am in the process of educating myself about Judaism and wrestle daily with whether or not I want to convert. I’m going to have to go back and revisit all of your posts now!!

 
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sarahcisme
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sarahcisme (message)  346 posts, Helper bee

This is such a wonderfully well-written post! I missed it the first time around so I am so glad you reposted as part of this series. My husband and I are both Catholic but I can relate to you in the sense that I have always felt agnostic in my faith. You have brought up some very interesting points regarding the nature of God, religion, and faith. Thank you!

 
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daniellealys
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daniellealys (message)  4,290 posts, Honey bee

Thanks for posting this. My husband and I are considered Noahide’s or Bnai Noah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah). We have both considered converting, I think about it frequently as I am sure my husband does. Husband comes from a catholic household and I come from a non-religious household.
Thanks for sharing! :) Good luck

 
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fromcharleston (message)  651 posts, Busy bee

Wow Mrs. HC. Such a good post!! I’m Jewish and I’ve struggled with the the idea of possibly asking someone to convert down the line in order to marry me. It’s also an ongoing point of contention between me and my parents. I really appreciate you sharing!

 
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Mrs. Mouse
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Mrs. Mouse (message)  5,844 posts, Bee Keeper

Wow, this is such a good post! Thanks for choosing it, as I never read it the first time around. Religion fascinates me, and especially those that are more foreign to me, like Judaism.

 
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Miss Cinnamon Bun (message)  1,100 posts, Bumble bee

What a great post! I just looked up Part 2 and read that one as well.
I’ve also always had an interest in Judaism and Jewish literature - I don’t think I’d ever convert, but I find all the ritual and the literature so fascinating!

 
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Ms. Anemone
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Ms. Anemone (message)  624 posts, Busy bee

This is beautiful, especially that last paragraph.

Jewish culture is so completely fascinating!

 
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JuneBride_26June2010
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JuneBride_26June2010 (message)  1,739 posts, Bumble bee

Wow what an awesome and well-thought-out post. While I identifiy with the religion in which I was brought up (a non-demoninational Christian Church) - I find it interesting to listen to others in how they believe (as well as why) because - while many people may not agree with me…I personally believe in what I do because I WANT to - but I also do have doubts in that who honestly KNOWS what truly is real and what’s not? I don’t like getting into arguments over religion (really, who does?) and believe that it’s just a personal decision for everyone to decide what the want to believe and what the don’t want to believe (as long as no one pushes their beliefs on others, one way or the other).
Anyways - beautiful post!

 
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I somehow missed this post the first time round, so I’m so glad you chose this one. It’s beautiful, well-written, and so thought-provoking. I’m in a similar boat, agnostic, raised in an agnostic household, but always felt an affinity to Judaism… and yet, from a cultural perspective rather than a religious one. I really appreciate how you Judaism understands the difference, and welcomes it.
Wishing you all the best!

 
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Mrs. Hot Cocoa (message)  2,077 posts, Buzzing bee

It’s so weird to have a post up on Weddingbee again! Your kind comments and openness to sharing your experiences remind me of how awesome this community can be. I’m blogging in my retirement at http://doublyhappy.blogspot.com. Please come by for a visit!

 
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Married In Chicago

Great post! Happy (almost) Chanukah!

 
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kitzy
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kitzy (message)  4,224 posts, Honey bee

i love this post! i’m in the process of converting, and it’s good to hear another convert struggling with the god thing. you said it perfectly.

 
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KB (message)  169 posts, Blushing bee

Wonderful post. :-) My s/o was raised LDS - with a dad who I guess was really strict about it. But, none of his family attend anymore. And he’s agnostic. I was raised to believe in God, but I only went to church (LDS too actually) with my stepmom on every other weekend and during the summer. I converted when I was 17, because it was helping me through a real difficult time, but I stopped going. I believe in God still, but I just don’t feel a need to attend church…and my s/o is perfectly okay with raising our future children to have faith. Of course, if they decided to be athiests…I’ll fully accept that as long as they respect those who aren’t.

 
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jordynrose
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jordynrose (message)  6,351 posts, Bee Keeper

Beautiful post! Love the shot of little HC. That dress is pretty fab.

 

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Mrs. Hot Cocoa, Boston/Los Angeles Age and Occupation: 31, JD/PhD Student Fiance's Age and Occupation: 32, Medical Student Engagement Date: May 30, 2008 Wedding Date: March, 2009 Blogging Since: April, 2008 Venue: Ritz Carlton, Marina Del Rey About Me: I am a professional student by day and an amateur cupcake taster, bargain shopper, and wedding planner by night. I am obsessed with NPR, the Food Network, paper, dance shows, Anthropologie, post-structuralist theory, Weddingbee!, "The Office," and celebrity gossip. When not procrastinating from my dissertation, I spend time catering to Jellyby, our overly anxious shih tzu, and getting to know Mr. Hot Cocoa. We have only been dating for fifteen years, so it's like I'm in love with a stranger! From the East Coast, we are planning a Jewish-Chinese Extravaganza in L.A., where we both grew up.

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