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Ms. Sloth, Philadelphia Age and Occupation: 35, Account Manager and Fashion Blogger Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, Design Admin Engagement Date: December 25, 2009 Wedding Date: May 2011 Venue: Bartram's Garden About Me: I'm an internet junkie and music snob with a good eye for a bargain. I couldn't live without thrift store shopping, cheeseburgers, sushi, Coke Zero, websites devoted to silly photos of baby animals, Photoshop, and Mr. Sloth. Speaking of which, he and I are a pair of goofball homebody nerds who love our beagle (the most ridiculously adorable dog EVER) to an embarrassing degree. We're planning a low-key and intimate yet festive and quirky outdoor wedding with DIY details and deeply personal touches, and it's all taking place in the city where we fell in love and call home: Philadelphia.
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Family Ties

December 17th, 2010 @ 1:13 pm by Ms. Sloth

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I apologize that this post is NOT about the TV show Family Ties.

I’ve mentioned before that my family is fairly drama-free. Well, that’s not the whole truth. The family members who are still in my life are drama-free. But there is a whole slew of family members to whom I haven’t spoken since I was 19.

A little background: my parents divorced when I was five years old and my sister was an infant. My father remarried when I was eleven and my sister was six. Our new stepmother had a three year-old son from an ex-boyfriend, and we adored both her and our new stepbrother. A few years after that, they had another baby, our half brother.

And then there was our father’s family. His mother, our grandmother, became a widow when my father’s real dad died when my dad and his siblings were still very young. She remarried the man who my dad would soon consider his father, and who I always knew as my grandfather. My dad also had a younger brother and sister, who grew up, met their spouses, got married and had kids.

Now, when I was little, I loved going to see my dad’s family. They spoiled me rotten and fawned all over me like I hung the moon. What small child wouldn’t eat that up with a spoon? But as I grew into an adolescent and teenager, I realized that they weren’t as great as I’d thought they were. They hated my mother after the divorce and said horrible things about her in front of us. And as I grew older, I realized other things that I wasn’t crazy about, not the least of which was their blatant racism. Yikes.

My father died of a heart attack when I was 18 and my sister was 13. A year after that, my sister, stepmother and I were verbally ambushed by our grandmother and aunt over something incredibly ridiculous. On Christmas Day. The three of us defended ourselves and it turned into a pretty ugly screaming match.

That was the last time we ever saw those people. It was sixteen years ago.

Now, I’m going to say something that might make me sound like a terrible person: I don’t regret this. I don’t regret the fact that I haven’t spoken to half of my family in almost half of my life.

Well, that’s not entirely true. It took me years to stop feeling hurt and rejected. And I felt bad about never seeing my little cousins again, since they’d had nothing to do with the drama. And I don’t like knowing how devastated my father would be if he’d known that his widow and children had been completely ostracized by the rest of his family.

A couple of years ago, while helping a friend do her family tree on Ancestry.com, I got curious and looked up my grandparents. Unfortunately, they had both passed on fairly recently. I felt sad, but it was the same kind of sadness I’d have felt if I’d just heard about the deaths of an acquaintance’s grandparents whom I’d never met. It was general sadness because death was sad.

But do I miss that side of the family? No. Did I feel the need to reconnect with them because I’m getting married? No.

And that’s really why I’m writing this post. A huge event like a wedding often brings out the sentimentality in people, the forgiveness in people. But I’m not the most sentimental person out there. As far as forgiveness, well, I haven’t really forgiven anyone. On the other hand, I don’t even care enough to be angry or hurt anymore. I don’t care enough to hate them, or to wish them harm or ill will. I generally hope that they are all healthy and happy, just like I’d hope that anyone on the planet was healthy and happy.

But I don’t care enough about them to open up a whole can of worms by seeking them out and inviting them to this wedding. Even if they would happily accept the invitation (which is very unlikely) I wouldn’t be able to relax if they attended. The wedding would become stressful, and that’s the last thing I want.

Do you have a strained or even estranged relationship with any of your relatives? Is your upcoming wedding causing you to reconsider your family ties and reconnect with any of them?

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lilmiss26

I feel like we are twins.

I have a very similar attitude about having only the people in my life that are drama free. There are a few members of my family that I do not talk to for reasons I feel are very valid. I did feel bad initially, but learned that I don’t have a very long attention span when it comes to remorse. I have never gotten sentimental or felt the need to reconnect since we have gotten engaged. I guess enough time has passed that I am over it.

 
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StrawberryBee (message)  149 posts, Blushing bee

A few people have asked me (in guilty whispers sometimes) if I’m inviting my father to our wedding, to which I have answered emphatically ‘no’ each time. I want to be surrounded by people I know love us on our wedding day, and not dredge up old drama. My parents divorced relatively recently (7 years ago?), after my father chose to go on a rampage and kick two of his three children out of the house — knowing we had nowhere to go. He pulled wires out of my brother’s car so that it wouldn’t run (he owned it) and let the air out of one of my tires (because I DID own my car, so he couldn’t do anything permanent to it).

He has, I’m sure, no memory of this now (he has an undiagnosed chemical imbalance; we’re guessing bipolar disorder), and has apparently calmed down a lot since then. Our relationship had been suffering for 10 years prior though, so in a way it was a bit of a relief. He cut the tie himself, and I didn’t have to feel guilty over it. He had been estranged from his family for years prior, so I really have no connections to my father’s side.

 
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mak418
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mak418 (message)  693 posts, Busy bee

I’m in the same boat with my grandmother - she and my mother have been estranged for years. I met her once when I was 18 (where apparently she decided I was rude…), but I had and have no interest in having a relationship with her - she’s a bitter, rather nasty woman. Didn’t invite her to the wedding… and didn’t feel bad about it a bit. You’re not alone, Sloth!

 
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Gilneas (message)  1,393 posts, Bumble bee

Both my husband and I do not have a relationship with our dads, and neither were invited to the wedding. It is a sore subject between my husband and his dad, and his dad actually found out our wedding date, location, and time, and showed up. Thankfully, no one told us until the end of the day, and I didn’t see him (though our photographer managed to capture a photo of him being yelled at by my mother in law!).

But we both have no regrets when it comes to our relationships with our dads, and there was no sadness or lack of love at our wedding because they weren’t in attendance.

 
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mightywombat
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mightywombat (message)  3,311 posts, Sugar bee

It most emphatically does NOT make you sound like a horrible person. It makes you sound like a healthy person who cut ties with a destructive group of people, who has mourned the loss that they caused, and moved on with her life. congratulations.

 
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dddd89
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dddd89 (message)  491 posts, Helper bee

Thank you so much for writing this!!!! I have a sort of similar situation and am not inviting my dad and his whole side of the family. My parents had a nasty divorce when I was 23 and in a fit of rage, my father told me he wasn’t walking me down the aisle. I was deeply hurt by that and even though he’s sorry, I’m stubborn enough to get his wish.

@Gilneas: OMG that is my biggest fear! Thankfully you didn’t see him!

 
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LittleMissBrassBand
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LittleMissBrassBand (message)  91 posts, Worker bee

Congratulations on your (in my opinion) mature, healthy mentality about this. I think it’s the smart, emotionally responsible decision to not reopen old wounds and fights by inviting that portion of your family to the wedding.

I haven’t had this experience with family members, but I have recently come to a similar realization regarding a group of pretty toxic former friends. When Mr. BrassBand and I got engaged, part of me felt like I should reconnect with these girls, since we have known each other for so long and they were around when I first met my fiance, etc etc…but I realized that I didn’t really want these girls (who I once considered my best friends and imagined standing by my side on my wedding day) to be involved, because they would most definitely find a way to make me feel bad about getting engaged, which is ridiculous!

On your wedding day, you want to have people who love and support you there to celebrate–not people who are going to try to tear you down. That’s what real family is about. :)

 
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upstatebroad
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upstatebroad (message)  342 posts, Helper bee

Your situation is so similar to mine! My dad’s real father died when he was young as well, he was one of five at the time. My grandmother remarried to a man who had 7 children whose wife also passed away, and then they had a child together. When it came time for some of the 7 to get married they resented my grandmother and didn’t want them at the wedding. This all happened when I was younger and growing up with cousins my own age from that side. Well then all hell broke loose and almost all 7 moved across the country to California. I still don’t talk to many of them, and wouldn’t even know who were my cousins now if they walked in front of me. I have reconnected with a few but don’t feel connected enough anymore to invite them to the wedding as well.

 
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lilmiss26
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lilmiss26 (message)  277 posts, Helper bee

Thank you for blogging on this subject. It is nice to know that I am not the only one that has experienced something like this. MY FI is super close to all his family and would never even think about walking away from a person that is causing him undo stress or drama. I thought I was a terrible person since no one had ever shared a similar experience. Thanks again for posting this!!!

 
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Mrs. Husky (message)  1,754 posts, Buzzing bee

This sounds like such a tough situation, and I’m glad you’ve found a way to move past it. I also think you offer some great advice, and I hope it helps other brides struggling with similar issues. Thanks for the thoughtful post!

 
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Megrit
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Megrit (message)  478 posts, Helper bee

I’m sorry you were ever in a situation like that. This is a great post and obviously from the responses you’re getting, you are not alone.

 
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Mrs. Barrettes (message)  883 posts, Busy bee

Great post, Sloth. Kudos to you for knowing yourself well enough not to get swept up in well-it’s-our wedding-and-we-should-invite-them-anyway mentality. Way better to be surrounded with people who love and support you :)

 
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spinningstars (message)  248 posts, Helper bee

I’ve had to cut ties with an aunt and an uncle over family drama- both over deaths in the family. The aunt was embezzling money from my grandmother, and we didn’t find out until after the funeral when we were dealing with the estate stuff, and the uncle refused to attend my dad’s funeral because “funerals make him sad.” I stopped speaking to them, stop sending Christmas cards, didn’t invite them to my college graduation, and never looked back. Family is the most important thing in my life, and I don’t want to have anything to do with family members who take that connection for granted.

 
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kml21636 (message)  116 posts, Blushing bee

Sloth, I was just thinking about these situatioins today..My little (well 14 now) brother was diagnosed autistic when he was 2. Let’s just say my mothers side of the family ‘disowned’ him. My grandmother and aunt would only call when they wanted money or some sort of financial help, but forgot our birthdays, forgot us on christmas…you know. I don’t want the gifts from her, I just want her to know I still exist ya know?
Well back to my brother, they would make snide remarks about his disability and say things like, “Why don’t you put him in a home or something” because my mom is sticking it out and gave up her job/career to be a stay at home mom, for us. What has my family done? Well my aunt has 4 girls, all different fathers..and only one of them is making something of herself, the rest are out running the streets, got pregnant before 15, and have 2 or more kids now..(not even 20 yet) but yet she feels the need to belittle us.
I never sent STDs to a majority of my mothers side, as well as my fathers side, since they are on the same line of maturity. Do I feel bad..nope. I invited my Great Grandmother, but not my grandmother, and I can sense some conflict brewing, but I’m not having it.

Don’t let these previous fall outs prevent you from having a beautiful wedding. Hell, planning is stressful enough.

 
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Miss Jaguar
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Miss Jaguar (message)  4,656 posts, Honey bee

This post struck a chord with me - I’m getting a lot of attitude from family members for NOT inviting certain people. But if they don’t know me, they don’t know Mr J and we haven’t exchanged any words in the last 26 years, WHY would they be expecting to come to our wedding?

Good for you for sticking to your guns!

 
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lynsiex (message)  86 posts, Worker bee

I haven’t spoken with my grandmother in 9 years, and I certainly don’t regret it! My mother was worried that the wedding would make me feel like I needed to invite her, but nope! Not to mention the fact that my mom wouldn’t want to come if I did.

 
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MrsSl82be (message)  7,970 posts, Bee Keeper

We haven’t spoken to my dad’s side of the family in 21 years, so when my wedding came around there was no question that the silence would continue. And, our wedding was just a couple blocks from his parents house!! They said some really hurtful things (like telling my dad that my sister wasn’t his!!!) and making him choose between us and them, with all kinds of ridiculousness in between, so once that happened my dad chose us and never looked back. I can say that none of us regret that decision, and have never thought that part of us were missing. My dad doesn’t even miss them, which says a lot since they are his own parents and siblings. sad that I don’t know my cousins, but not enough that I would seek them out

 
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eileen marie (message)  1,662 posts, Bumble bee

I am so sorry about your father (even though it was some time ago.) My father died when I was 15 and my mother when I was 30 (the month before I became engaged). I had an estranged brother (let’s call him brother 1) who came back into the fold about 7 or so years before my mom died, and we are all very close to him (that is to say, my 2 sisters and I). Before he came into the picture, my OTHER brother (brother 2) was around. At about the same time brother 1 came back into the picture, brother 2 went out -he had a big row with my mother and moved out of his apt in her bldg (where my mom, my little sister and I lived). He didn’t agree with her choice of tenant which was none of his business. Well, he left my sick mother with a mess of an apt and 1/2 finished construction to get ready for another tenant. The rest of us did not get involved in the fight. Well, about 7 years pass, my mom is in hospice, and my older sister calls brother 2 to come visit my mom before she dies. After my mom passes, none of us really get any closer to brother 2 (he was always a rather strange bird), but he shows up to the funeral. Fast forward to our wedding in 2009, and I am still a little bitter about how my brother treated our late mother, but I invite him and he comes. EVERY other sibling is standing up in our wedding -brother 1 is WALKING ME DOWN THE AISLE (and I hadn’t seen him in more than 10 years when he resurfaced). Things are still weird, but we do occasionally see brother 2 at my older sister’s family gatherings. I think both you and I made the right decision. I am talking about my brother, which is different than extended family anyway. But you should not bring stress and drama into your wedding day. Perhaps one day, you’ll want to reconnect, but this is not the time. Much luck -I feel your pain.

 
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iwantweddingchampagne
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iwantweddingchampagne (message)  134 posts, Blushing bee

I can relate, I don’t talk to interact with my father’s side of the family either, the death of my father at a very young age brought out the worst in them. I never saw too much of it because I was way too young to understand, but as the years went on my mother gave me more tidbits of why she cut them out of her life, and it made sense.

I don’t think the fact that my mom remarried sat well with them either, but was my mom *really* supposed to stay alone and lonely with a 1yr old and 3yr old to support? I don’t think so, and I’m extremely grateful that I had a father figure throughout my childhood, I wouldn’t be the same person without him.

 
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Ms. Sloth, Philadelphia Age and Occupation: 35, Account Manager and Fashion Blogger Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, Design Admin Engagement Date: December 25, 2009 Wedding Date: May 2011 Venue: Bartram's Garden About Me: I'm an internet junkie and music snob with a good eye for a bargain. I couldn't live without thrift store shopping, cheeseburgers, sushi, Coke Zero, websites devoted to silly photos of baby animals, Photoshop, and Mr. Sloth. Speaking of which, he and I are a pair of goofball homebody nerds who love our beagle (the most ridiculously adorable dog EVER) to an embarrassing degree. We're planning a low-key and intimate yet festive and quirky outdoor wedding with DIY details and deeply personal touches, and it's all taking place in the city where we fell in love and call home: Philadelphia.

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