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Mrs. Panther, Atlanta GA/Westport CT Age and Occupation: 24, Web Writer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 25, Music Recording Engineer Engagement Date: March 13, 2010 Wedding Date: July 2011 Venue: The Inn at Longshore About Me: I'm a total goofball who goes through life at a breakneck pace, trying not to knock anything over. I tend to fall in love with everything I encounter, but more than anything, I love my two little kitties, Bela and Josie, and my big kitty, Mr. Panther! As a wannabe crafter, I'm still waiting for my artistic talents to emerge. (Any day now, really.) In the meantime, I spend my days eating anything put in front of me, buying every pair of shoes I see and absorbing wedding inspiration from every inch of my surroundings. Mr. Panther and I are hardcore New Englanders planning Connecticut nuptials from our new home in the Dirty South, and can't wait to mix our newfound love of classic Southern charm with some modern city touches.
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Time to Dress the Manther

January 10th, 2011 @ 6:31 pm by Mrs. Panther

Oof. You guys, dressing Mr. Panther is trickier than I thought it would be. I think I need to hang up a sign somewhere that says, “WEDDING BLOGS ARE NOT REAL LIFE.” I need to hang it up and look at it every chance I get.

See, before we decided between suits and tuxedos, I knew one thing: I wanted Mr. Panther to be in a slim-fit style. I saved this photo from the wedding that inspired our color palette, and I’ve been basing everything off that:

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As I learned later, this isn’t even a full-on slim-fit suit. See how wide the lapel is?

Your typical slim suit usually has a much narrower one. But anyway, this was what I wanted: narrow-cut pants hemmed to the ankle, high notch lapel, very slim jacket, white shirt and black tie, blah blah blah.

As I did more research, I amended this to a slightly skinnier black tie and a narrower lapel, like this:

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This kind of look is all over the blogosphere, so it must be easy to find, right? Right?! Oh. No.

Originally, Mr. Panther planned to buy. We wanted to make sure the suit fit perfectly. He said he wanted something really nice, so I suggested that if he was going to spend some dough, he should probably go with a regular black suit, so that he’d be more likely to wear it again. He disagreed. He wanted to look special and stand out from the groomsmen. He wanted a satin lapel and satin stripes on the pants and that kind of thing, like this:

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OK, fine with me. So, we started looking. My first suggestion was the skinny suit mecca: J. Crew. Have you guys seen how handsome Mr. Ribbons looked in his J. Crew suit?

But Mr. Panther was resistant. He wanted a suit made by some well-known men’s suit maker, not by “a store in the mall.” He’s such a snob! I argued and argued, and finally dragged him into a store, but he didn’t like how the jacket fit. And then we realized that their tuxes only come in peaked and shawl lapels. All right, Mr. Panther. You’re off the hook for now.

After some Googling, I somehow ended up at this gorgeous Hugo Boss tux:

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Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner! It came with a hefty-hefty-hefty price tag, but since Mr. Panther wanted something special, he figured he’d just make it work.

Fast-forward a couple months to this past weekend. Mr. Panther and I are ready to start really looking at tuxes, and when the reality of spending almost $1000 on a tux hits him, Mr. Panther starts having second thoughts. Sigh. After I begged and begged, he agreed to at least try the Hugo Boss tux on. We headed over to Bloomingdale’s, and of course, it was stunning. Mr. Panther was feeling cranky about the price tag and wouldn’t let me take a picture, but trust me. It was a wonderful, wonderful piece of clothing.

But Mr. Panther just couldn’t fathom shelling out that kind of dough, so we moved on. Next up was Kenneth Cole, where Mr. Panther fell in love with a basic black suit for just $300. This one, he let me take pictures of.

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Personal photo - Please ignore the sneakers.

I mean, it’s fine. It fits him well and he looks very handsome. But in my opinion, there’s nothing special about it. It seems well-made, but the fabric isn’t very nice (it’s polyester, not wool). And of course, since it’s not a tuxedo, there’s no satin lapel, or fancy pants stripes. I know, I know, it sounds like I’m being overly picky. And I’m the one who suggested he just go with a basic black suit in the first place. But after thinking about the satin lapels for six months, and after spending a lot of time gazing at my ball gown, I’ve convinced myself that the man needs a tux.

Apparently, the Kenneth Cole slim collection did have a notch lapel tux at one point, but they must not make it anymore. We found it on Overstock.com, but not in Mr. Panther’s size.

So…we kept looking. We tried Macy’s, Nordstrom, Men’s Wearhouse and everywhere in between. Nothing was quite right. It seems slim-fit, notched-lapel tuxedos just don’t exist for under $800. Mr. Panther’s mom suggested he reconsider renting. I wasn’t feeling very optimistic, but I agreed that it was an option we needed to at least look into.

Our last stop was Bridals by Lori, where I got my dress. They both rent and sell tuxedos, so we figured we’d check out their retail and rental options. When we explained what we were looking for in a rental, the sales associate directed us to a Joseph Abboud tux. They said it was the slimmest fitting tux they had, and also the best quality.

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This photo makes it look all right, and it was a nice tux. But it just wasn’t what we were looking for. Look how miserable Mr. Panther looks in it! He was feeling very disappointed, because he knew that the rental thing just wasn’t going to work out. The sales associate assessed our pitiful faces, and asked what was wrong. I admitted that I was comparing everything to the Hugo Boss tux, which we couldn’t afford. While Mr. Panther was getting dressed, the sales associate conferred with his manager.

When we came back up from the dressing room, the manager told us that while they did not carry the Hugo Boss slim collection, since most consumers were looking for a more traditional fit, she could order it. Their price was $795, and they’d take off $150 because I’d bought my dress there. This bought the price down to $645. Still not cheap, but this is our wedding day. We can make room in the budget for that. The one problem?

The slim-fit tuxedo that Bridals by Lori has in their catalog isn’t the same one Mr. Panther tried on at Bloomingdale’s. Gah!

The Hugo Boss tux that Mr. Panther tried on is the “Aikin/Hollo” style. The tux that Bridals by Lori has in their system is the “Stars/Glamour” style. Here it is:

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What’s the difference, you ask? Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Well, here’s what I’ve found:

  1. The “Aikin/Hollo” has a slightly shorter jacket.
  2. The “Aikin/Hollo” has narrow-cut trousers, while the “Stars/Glamour” has straight-cut trousers.
  3. The “Aikin/Hollo” has regular black buttons, while the “Stars/Glamour” has fabric covered buttons.
  4. The “Stars/Glamour” has pointier lapels.

There must be more than that, but that’s all I can tell from the internet.

The plan is this: The manager at Bridals by Lori will get in touch to see if they can get the “Aikin/Hollo,” and if so, what the price would be. Meanwhile, Mr. Panther and I will try to find the “Stars/Glamour” tux in a store so he can try it on.

And then, hopefully, we’ll have a conclusion. Stay tuned for that!

Hey, have you any of you guys found slim-fit tuxedos? WHERE?! Got any tuxedo-hunting horror stories to share?

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43 Responses to “Time to Dress the Manther”

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SandraMarie_1986
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SandraMarie_1986 (message)  1,363 posts, Bumble bee

Wow, that is a lot of work. I hope everything works out for the best!

 
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BirdofaFeather
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BirdofaFeather (message)  473 posts, Helper bee

DH is tall and lean and we bought one of the slim fits at J.Crew. The real trick to the slim fit suit: find one you like at the price point that feels good and then get it tailored!

this is key to getting a well-fitting suit for your man. you can thank me later. :)

 
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Miss Prairie Dog (message)  400 posts, Helper bee

Mr. PD is also an insufferable suit snob, but wound up making his decision on the basis of liking the material/pinstripe. He plans to have it tailored to fit the way he wants it to…hope it works =/

 
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Miss Oatmeal (message)  221 posts, Helper bee

Oh man, we haven’t even started this process yet. Wish I was more help!

 
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Mrs. Spaniel (message)  6,792 posts, Bee Keeper

Too bad it’s turning out to be so difficult. :( I’d say that you’re right about the Kenneth Cole suit, though–even though it fits him well, if he’s “investing” in a nice suit rather than renting, he should get a wool one, not polyester.

I hope you’re able to find what you’re looking for!

 
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Miss Jam (message)  309 posts, Helper bee

Mr. J has the strangest body type known to man (yes, this is coming straight from him) so he relies on alterations for EVERY.SINGLE.THING. Poor guy loves the slim fit, but has never been able to buy one off the rack that fits juuuuust right.

Become bff with a good tailor, Mr. Panther. It’s also TONS cheaper in the long run!!!

 
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Miss Panther (message)  1,046 posts, Bumble bee

@SandraMarie_1986: Thank you!
@BirdofaFeather: LOVE the J. Crew ones! You lucky girl!
@Miss Prairie Dog: Ooh la la, pinstripe! Mr. PD is gonna look awesome.
@Miss Oatmeal: I bet Mr. O looks good in everything — that’ll be a breeze!

 
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peaches1038
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peaches1038 (message)  793 posts, Busy bee

GO HERE!
http://www.indochino.com/product/The_Dinner_Jacket_Tuxedo

My FI is the snobbiest snob of clothing. He has gotten two suits (one for the wedding) from here.

They are custom made to their measurements and then they provide a $75 credit to get any minor things fixed at a local tailor. If a local tailor cannot fix the issue, then they will make you an a entire new suit for FREE.

My FI got a tan suit for the wedding and the pants did not fit the way he had hoped so they sent him a new pair. The new pair of pants fit perfectly but FI thought they looked darker than the jacket so he called and they sent him another pair with no problems at all.

FI is really slender and really prefers the slim look too and I have to say that his suit is perfect and looks amazing on him!

ps…I am in no way affiliated with indochino, but am just a stressed out bride trying to dress her man just like you! Good luck!

 
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Miss Panther (message)  1,046 posts, Bumble bee

@Mrs. Spaniel: Thank you so much for agreeing with me! Mr. Panther thinks I’m being silly about the whole wool/polyester thing.
@Miss Jam: We will definitely be hanging with a tailor this spring! For the record, though, Mr. Jam does not look like he has a strange body at all in pictures. :)

 
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Miss Panther (message)  1,046 posts, Bumble bee

@peaches1038: Oh, wow! I’m really, really intrigued by this. I’d love to see photos, if you have any!

 
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Miss Panther (message)  1,046 posts, Bumble bee

@peaches1038: PS: Why does it seem too good to be true?! Aren’t custom-made suits usually like, over $1000?

 
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peaches1038 (message)  793 posts, Busy bee

I PM’d you!

 
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Miss Oatmeal (message)  221 posts, Helper bee

@peaches1038: Uhhh I’m super intrigued by this too.
@Miss Panther: But you’re right, it almost seems too good to be true! Let me know if you find out anything else about this!

 
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Mrs. Octopus (message)  1,446 posts, Bumble bee

I’m no help at all in the suit department, but I just wanted to say that referring to Mr. P as “The Manther” = HI-larious.

 
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marylizbeth (message)  180 posts, Blushing bee

Yikes, I went down this exact same road. We wanted a reasonably prices slim fit suit or tux that would fit a silm guy. NO luck! We almost got one at banana but the fit wasn’t right. We actually went with a rental from MW Calvin Klein slim and ordered no vests and purchased skinny ties. they weren’t great but in the end it all looked great and the guys were super comfortable.

 
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Mrs. Barrettes
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Mrs. Barrettes (message)  883 posts, Busy bee

oh my goodness, girl, this is alot! Poor Manther does look miserable in that J.A tux. I don’t have any suggestions, as Mr. B went the traditional tux route, but I hope this story has a good ending!

 
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absolutbettie
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absolutbettie (message)  261 posts, Helper bee

awww! i have to say i think Mr. Panther looks pretty adorable in the $300 suit even with the sneakers! My man bought a skinny tux from Saks here in NYC very similar to your pics above and it looked amazing. I was so jealous, he found his outift on his very first outing and it fit like a glove. I think he had 1 alteration, but was included with the price off the rack.

I see that you’re from the CT/tri-state area, so maybe a trip into the city could be worth it? Fair warning, though, it was not cheap and was definitely an “investment.” It actually cost more than my dress but the thinking was that he would–and did–wear it again (twice in fact). PM me if you need any more details! Good luck!

 
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Miss Zebra
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Miss Zebra (message)  1,044 posts, Bumble bee

Wowsas! That’s a ton of tux shopping. I wanted to skinny tux too for Mr. Zeeb but we ended up with the traditional because …well because the sales guy was trying to convince me it was a skinny and not a regular. Good luck with the Mister’s tux! I hope the store can get you the one you want.

 
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Miss Panther (message)  1,046 posts, Bumble bee

@Mrs. Octopus: Thanks! I’ve been working on a Bee-nickname for him and that’s the best I’ve come up with so far.
@marylizbeth: Good to know that MW has a slim option, since our groomsmen will have to rent! Was that a tux or a suit?
@Mrs. Barrettes: Mr. B looked so handsome! And thanks! :)
@absolutbettie: Sadly, I think Saks will be out of our budget … but yeah, it IS an investment! The weird thing is, Manther keeps insisting that he will refuse to wear his wedding tux to anyone else’s wedding, in order to preserve its “specialness.” He’s SO weird.
@Miss Zebra: Those sales guys are such tricksters! Can’t wait to see what Mr. Zeeb ended up with. :)

 
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melisandescott (message)  213 posts, Helper bee

We DID find a slim fit suit, and but it wasn’t easy! My FI is really tall and thin, and they don’t actually make pants in the size he would need (30×33 or 34). So we have to go up in the waist to get the length and have them tailored.

We ended up with the Alfani Red slim fit in charcoal grey. He’s not wearing the jacket; just the vest and slacks.

 
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Mrs. Panther, Atlanta GA/Westport CT Age and Occupation: 24, Web Writer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 25, Music Recording Engineer Engagement Date: March 13, 2010 Wedding Date: July 2011 Venue: The Inn at Longshore About Me: I'm a total goofball who goes through life at a breakneck pace, trying not to knock anything over. I tend to fall in love with everything I encounter, but more than anything, I love my two little kitties, Bela and Josie, and my big kitty, Mr. Panther! As a wannabe crafter, I'm still waiting for my artistic talents to emerge. (Any day now, really.) In the meantime, I spend my days eating anything put in front of me, buying every pair of shoes I see and absorbing wedding inspiration from every inch of my surroundings. Mr. Panther and I are hardcore New Englanders planning Connecticut nuptials from our new home in the Dirty South, and can't wait to mix our newfound love of classic Southern charm with some modern city touches.

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