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Ms. Sloth, Philadelphia Age and Occupation: 35, Account Manager and Fashion Blogger Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, Design Admin Engagement Date: December 25, 2009 Wedding Date: May 2011 Venue: Bartram's Garden About Me: I'm an internet junkie and music snob with a good eye for a bargain. I couldn't live without thrift store shopping, cheeseburgers, sushi, Coke Zero, websites devoted to silly photos of baby animals, Photoshop, and Mr. Sloth. Speaking of which, he and I are a pair of goofball homebody nerds who love our beagle (the most ridiculously adorable dog EVER) to an embarrassing degree. We're planning a low-key and intimate yet festive and quirky outdoor wedding with DIY details and deeply personal touches, and it's all taking place in the city where we fell in love and call home: Philadelphia.
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Gratuitous vs. Frivolous

January 24th, 2011 @ 10:06 am by Ms. Sloth

Mr. S was in a mood last night.

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Well, let me back up. First, I need to explain that I’ve made a lot of minor wedding-related decisions without Mr. S’ input. It’s not that I don’t want his input—but he honestly just doesn’t care or doesn’t have an opinion about most of the little things. He cares a lot about the big stuff (venue, food, music), but details? Newp. In the beginning, we had a lot of conversations like this:

Me: “Which fabric do you like better for the table overlays?”

Him: “Either one is fine. Whatever you like.”

Me: “Should I refinish this antique box for our card box, or should I just buy a cheap birdcage?”

Him: “I don’t care. Whatever you want.”

Me: “Help me decide between this brighter raspberry and this darker plum.”

Him: “I’m colorblind, remember? I can’t even see a difference.”

Me: “I like these mismatched glass vases, but now I’m thinking milk glass instead. What do you think?”

Him: “I don’t even know what that is.”

And so on.

So since then, I usually make the decisions myself, and then let him know after the fact. His reaction is usually a simple “Sounds good to me!”

But last night, the mood.

I was trying to figure out some wedding detail. To be honest, it was so insignificant that now, I can’t even remember what I was talking about. It was something small, like escort cards or bathroom baskets. Although I pretty much expected a shrug, I asked my beloved his opinion:

His moody reply: “Just do whatever’s easiest. Nobody is going to notice or care anyway.”

Now, while I know this is mostly true—nobody notices the details as much as the bride does—I still didn’t like how he was basically saying that it was pointless to decide on the pretty little details. I told him this and he replied, “But who cares about little stuff like that? It’s just so gratuitous.”

I should’ve just shrugged it off, but sometimes Mr. S’ moods are contagious. And, also, his statement made me realize something:

Our entire wedding is gratuitous. As a matter of fact, most weddings in general are gratuitous. All you really need for a wedding is a couple who wants to get married and an officiant. Everything else—the venue, the music, the food, the booze, the fancy duds, the hair and makeup, the photography, the favors, the flowers—it’s all gratuitous. None of it is necessary.

But the thing is, we decided off the bat that we wanted to have this wedding. We could’ve gotten married by a JOP at City Hall, but we wanted to celebrate with our friends and family. We budgeted to make sure that we could afford the whole shebang without going into debt. We’ve already spent over a year planning and there’s still plenty of work to do. We’ve made it a priority. This wedding is important to us. And if I want to make it just a leetle more pretty and unique by adding some little detail, well, maybe it’s gratuitous, but I don’t think it’s frivolous, and I didn’t like that Mr. S was making me feel that way.

When I said this to Mr. S, he immediately got it, and his moody mood eventually lightened up. He understood my need to have pretty little things at the wedding, even if he didn’t feel the same need, and all was good.

Did you and your FI ever disagree about which wedding details were important and which were unnecessary?

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15 Responses to “Gratuitous vs. Frivolous”

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ATP2011 (message)  255 posts, Helper bee

I love Oscar!

 
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Mrs. Boom (message)  121 posts, Blushing bee

my fiance learned long ago to let my ideas run their course… they usually go from insanely unrealistic, to a smaller-scale version, to not doing it at all, to something completely different that is way more practical. I am a perfectionist to the point of being ridiculous so little details are my favorite but he knows that when it comes down to it I am more concerned with our happiness- if a little detail is causing too much stress or will be too expensive we scrap it. I think that just as long as the details are making YOU happy or will serve a good purpose for your guests they should make sense to your fiance! :) That being said I think we have to go out of our way to make them understand this sometimes but also take their opinions into account because I know I have had a lot of ideas vetod that would have been more frivolous than anything and I think God my Fiance is able to edit my ideas for me (in a nice way).

 
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Miss Bacon (message)  656 posts, Busy bee

We’re still in the “Sure, whatever” phase, but he is suddenly very particular about having Serif fonts on the invites. So random!

 
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Lexsy (message)  537 posts, Busy bee

I think it’s normal to sometimes wonder if it’s all worth it… Or if it even matters at all! I truly think the answer is in the middle - I mean, I know none of these details will be as important for my guests as they are for me, but so what? They will still appreciate and hopefully find these details funny, and I will smile when I remember how intense and interesting the whole experience was! And I’m sure your FI will be proud of you when he sees all that you’ve managed to pull off!

 
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DoxieDoll (message)  164 posts, Blushing bee

I’m glad Mr. S saw the light and realized it’s the little things that make it awesome! PS: Bathroom Baskets.. totally forgot to add to my DIY list! Thanks for the reminder, hehe.

 
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SuperShopper
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SuperShopper (message)  866 posts, Busy bee

Oh yes! I’m a detail person by nature and my FI more of a big picture guy so see the different sides of our big day. So far he’s been great about letting me do my thing on the small stuff that he doesn’t care about. :) I know he’ll think it’s all great when he sees it come together!

 
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ontariobride (message)  137 posts, Blushing bee

my fiance and I had a similar discussion such as this.. I wanted to send out Save the dates and he thought it was unecessary, but it meant a lot to me and I had made really cute ones. So when it came to the time to show him my creation he kinda shrugged it off…. a discussion was then had about how its OUR wedding not just MINE and that I wanted his opinions and input. After that we were good and this weekend he even went with me to a Bridal show and was a great sport.. partly b/c he got to taste lots of cake I think haha.

 
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Mrs. Pug (message)  3,753 posts, Honey bee

nicely put. it’s a party–not a necessity, but it’s fun and celebratory, so why not get into the details?

 
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ktisthatbees (message)  2,742 posts, Sugar bee

God, I wished my FI cared about something. . ANYTHING. . . but yeah whenever he is in a mood, so am I. And for the record, I think the details matter. . .A LOT

 
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mrspaetz (message)  3,805 posts, Honey bee

I think he’s just tired of having to make decisions on stuff. Guys don’t really realize that it’s the details that make a beautiful big picture, so they get all AARGH!!!!

 
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OctPumpkin (message)  593 posts, Busy bee

I can totally commiserate. The details were so important to me and don’t listen to what anyone says, they made the day magical. It’s totally reflected in our pictures. But the details drove my husband CRAZY and he was continuously a Mr. cranky pants that I was spending so much time on what he thought inconsequential. While he’s glad that we are no longer planning a wedding, he totally appreciated the wedding day. So stay strong!

 
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Sunlavender (message)  553 posts, Busy bee

Definitely. My FI was crazy into some details (mostly those revolving around food decisions :) ) but really doesn’t mind about others (invitations). Mostly I don’t mind making the little decisions, but there’s been a few bumps in the road. We’ve had similar conversations to the ones you mentioned above.

 
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Nicolle

I couldn’t be MORE on the same page as you with this feeling. Amen x 100000

 
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kristophine

I think there are two big things we’ve disagreed about: first, the ideal size of the wedding; and second, how much I am allowed to make it about Star Trek.

His family is ENORMOUS. Just inviting the people who live in our state and are no further away than first cousins means 80 people. On his side. Mine? I’m inviting people from Washington to Florida and I’ve got fewer than 10. I really wanted to have a wedding with fewer than 40 guests. That just wasn’t going to be possible, according to him, and he won.

I am a huge, huge, huge Star Trek nerd. I have loved Star Trek since I was just a little wee thing and my parents would let me stay up to watch Next Gen. I desperately wanted to have a combined Star Trek/Star Wars wedding, with my side in Star Trek and his in Star Wars. He put his foot down. He wanted it to be classy, by God, and no, he wasn’t going to at least have his best men wear Stormtrooper helmets or let me wear Borg face-jewelry and carry a phaser.

I’ll probably thank him in fifty years, but I am sad that he vetoed it so immediately and strongly and has not shown even the slightest hint of changing his mind.

 
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Ms. Sloth, Philadelphia Age and Occupation: 35, Account Manager and Fashion Blogger Fiance's Age and Occupation: 30, Design Admin Engagement Date: December 25, 2009 Wedding Date: May 2011 Venue: Bartram's Garden About Me: I'm an internet junkie and music snob with a good eye for a bargain. I couldn't live without thrift store shopping, cheeseburgers, sushi, Coke Zero, websites devoted to silly photos of baby animals, Photoshop, and Mr. Sloth. Speaking of which, he and I are a pair of goofball homebody nerds who love our beagle (the most ridiculously adorable dog EVER) to an embarrassing degree. We're planning a low-key and intimate yet festive and quirky outdoor wedding with DIY details and deeply personal touches, and it's all taking place in the city where we fell in love and call home: Philadelphia.

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