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Mrs. Seashell, Chicago, IL / Providence, RI Age and Occupation: 28, Marriage and Family Therapist Fiance's Age and Occupation: 31, Electrical Engineer Engagement Date: September 3, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2010 Venue: The Glen Manor House About Me: Fonts and fashion, stationery and Sundays, photography and french toast... the beauty is in the details for this fun-loving Chicagoan who loves to plan plan plan! The soon-to-be hubs plays "Mr. Fix-It" in our new condo while I swoon over beautiful, personalized stationery and choose shades of aubergine for my bridesmaids' dresses... and thus begins my new fairy tale! Skirting to the East Coast for our September nuptials where my home state of Rhode Island awaits with fall foliage, I'm just a few dress fittings and bachelorette party away from saying "I Do" to a very happy ending!
About Mrs. Seashell

I wasn’t a crazy person two years ago. I was a sane and rational mid-twentysomething with a boyfriend I loved, wrapping up grad school, job searching, setting up a new apartment, and in my spare time booking a wedding venue, photographer, trying on dresses, and oops—buying a wedding dress—WITHOUT A RING ON MY FINGER.

Shit. I was straight-up crazy pants. I was that girl. How did this all happen?

Now that I’m on the other side of all this I want to get real with you. Some of my actions were cute and “I’msoexcitedIwanttomarryyou!” and some where relationship suicide. This is not advice. This is just my story.

Of course, when this was all going on, I swore I had my reasons.

First, Mr. Seashell and I had talked very openly about our future. Many conversations included phrases like, “when we’re married,” or “at our wedding,” or “our kids will never…”. We knew we wanted to marry each other and we even had a pretty clear time frame of when said marriage would occur. Mr. Seashell would tease me that he was pretty sure I had a wedding date jotted down somewhere, and when I admitted he was right, he asked and agreed it actually sounded perfect. September 25, 2010. We had a plan.

Then, Mr. Seashell’s Mom got sick. As family and friends gathered around and faced the possibility of losing her, Mr. Seashell and I had some very real conversations about throwing our timetable out the window. Mr. Seashell was adamant about keeping things as we had intended—he wanted to give his mom something to fight for. So we did.

Mama Seashell was privy to these conversations, and moved forward with the plan of a September 25, 2010 wedding as well. As far as she was concerned, we were engaged. We had discussed our intentions to be married, and having never had an engagement ring herself, she knew a piece of jewelry didn’t determine your “relationship status.”

Here’s the thing though: in my heart I knew we weren’t “engaged.” Mr. Seashell had every intention of buying me a diamond ring and planning a romantic proposal. As wedding talk moved forward he expressed reluctance (“but I haven’t proposed yet!”), and I was too excited to stop the wedding train that had left the station. When my mom told me she had planned an afternoon jaunt to look at wedding venues, I didn’t say no. I genuinely wanted to look at options, and I knew that things booked up far in advance. What’s the harm in putting down a deposit? We have a date. But Mr. Seashell didn’t know what I was doing that day. I didn’t call or text to say that we were looking at—or, oops—reserving a wedding venue. Then we swung by a bridal shop and tried on a few dresses too. I bought one.

Two days later when I told Mr. Seashell about the day with my mom, he lost it. He felt like all the excitement was gone and now he was holding up the show by not having yet proposed. He said he was embarrassed. Pressured. He also said I’d taken a huge piece of the wedding planning away from him—away from us as a couple—and I understood what he meant. I was hiding the plans of a wedding from my partner, and I was not liking the way it felt. Then I got a sinking feeling: what if I’m the girl who plans an entire wedding—without being engaged—and then gets her heart broken? THAT would be embarrassing. But I kept moving forward. I went on to book our photographer and started doing research online like it was my job. We had a date, right?

In the end, Mr. Seashell proposed about 10 weeks after the venue booking fiasco. Everything wasn’t perfect, though. He still made it very clear how hurt and frustrated he was by my actions. It came up A LOT during the next year. I had broached his trust, and taken something away from our wedding planning process. Some of the magic, excitement, anticipation—whatever it was—had been lost.

Looking back, I wish I would have seen the bigger picture. I couldn’t, though. I was too immersed, too focused on the end result. Sure, it all worked out, we had a beautiful wedding, and the memory of our pre-engagement has faded quite a bit. But for a while our relationship was worse for the wear and I had myself to blame. Can you relate?

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23 Responses to “An Open Letter to “Girls In Waiting””

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PitBulLover
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PitBulLover (message)  8,314 posts, Bee Keeper

Great post Seashell! Now when are you going to start those recaps!? BTW - you look beautiful in that new picture of yours!

 
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Mrs. Seashell (message)  1,713 posts, Bumble bee

@PitBulLover: Aw, thanks! I’m literally working on the RIGHT THIS SECOND!!! :)

 
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raevnn
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raevnn (message)  164 posts, Blushing bee

haha “shit. i was straight up crazy pants” best line ever!

this is sorta like my story. we’ve been together for 7 years and while i should have just enjoyed the conversations and dreams for the future and “played” at wedding planning, i couldn’t stop there and in the end kept pushing. indeed it took the fun out of some things, and some things could have been “relationship suicide” - thankfully my FI rolled w/ the punches and accepts that i am a crazy person. and for my part, i’ve put my crazy pants in the closet where they belong. though… sometimes i do pull out my crazy socks! :) haha

 
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teacherandageek
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teacherandageek (message)  270 posts, Helper bee

THANK YOU for this letter!! I have unfortunately acted in a similar way with my FI. Once I knew he had the ring, it was like I turned into a completely different person. Every night we went out to dinner/movie/etc I was expecting a proposal, and when I didn’t get it? Incredibly disappointed. In my mind, he had it, he just wasn’t sure he wanted to do it anymore, hence the waiting. It was torture, and I constantly bugged him about the ring/proposal. He often expressed his frustration about me knowing, and wanting to make it perfect, and a big suprise.
Well, proposal time comes around and while it was wonderful, I couldn’t help but think that he was doing it just for me. Just to assuage my fears, rather, or I guess; shut me up.
There was no big gesture, no down-on-one-knee, and it makes me sort of sad to think about. Like I kind of ruined it, ya know?
But whats done is done, and while I am incredibly happy to be engaged, I wish I would have kept my mouth shut a little more back then. But thank you Seashell for this letter, I hope that it can shed some light for other waiting girls out there. :)

 
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mrsbowieii
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mrsbowieii (message)  693 posts, Busy bee

I can relate to this except I was the opposite I refused to do anything until he put the ring on my finger so when he would mention something I would look down at my hand and say I will let you know when things are really there. It made the tension between us high because he felt like I was pushing and I felt like he was procrastinating and it did take some of the fun out at times.

Great post.

 
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tea
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tea (message)  7,288 posts, Bee Keeper

i’m waiting on a proposal though i can’t really relate to your story. yes we have a tentative date and i have some pretty solid ideas/plans in place but the main difference is while my mister and i have both discussed every aspect of our wedding so far [and that he's encouraged my pre-planning], i haven’t booked anything yet nor done anything without his knowledge. every plan i’ve come up with so far has been discussed with him for his input and there is still plenty of things for us to do together. i feel like we’re both getting our hands in the planning even though i’m the main planner as he’s admittedly not into details. me? i breathe details.

but as you said, every situation is different. i know yours is simply a precautionary tale of what could happen and for people to be cautious in how they proceed in this situation.

 
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AmuseMeMusically
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AmuseMeMusically (message)  1,079 posts, Bumble bee

I bought my dress two months before we got engaged. But I told myself I was limiting myself to decisions (like dress, shoes, veil) that only affected me.
My rationale at the time was that if things went south, I could always still use the dress at a later date! (Yeah,right.)
It ended up helping, because the dress was paid off by the time I got engaged, but I’m not sure I’d recommend this course of action to others.

 
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Mrs. Sand Dollar
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Mrs. Sand Dollar (message)  1,305 posts, Bumble bee

Honestly I get where you’re coming from, but I can’t say that I blame you. I think in this modern day and age, too much emphasis is given on the male popping the question before anything gets done. How is that fair? You have a specific amount of time to get things done. Yes, a wedding can be planned in two months. But you lose out on a lot of choice then. I’m not saying to plan an entire wedding before you’re officially engaged, but like many (I can think of at least a handful offhand) blogging bees before you, things needed to be planned and signed and paid for before the proposal ever happened. Look at Avocado!

I can see why the mister was upset, because it was kind of a secret, but I still think it’s a bit irrational and exaggerated. You had a date, you had full intentions, everybody knew there would be a wedding. Things need to get done, especially with an illness in the equation, and the proposal can come at any time. The intentions were there! I just don’t really see a problem with putting down a deposit, if he’d been informed that you were going to look.

 
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Jen4414 (message)  233 posts, Helper bee

Oh god, I went and looked at a venue last week! We aren’t engaged and I was with his mom and sister. Stop me now! great post, I will relax haha

 
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Miss Sydney
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Miss Sydney (message)  749 posts, Busy bee

We went and “looked” at a place before we were engaged, but it was only because we were already there! Putting it into perspective, FI told me he had a ring “planned” in July (little did i know this meant his grandmother had offered him a family ring), I then found the suspicious ring box in the following January and he proposed in June! In the meantime though we had bought a house and whilst I wanted the proposal sooner, our 5 year anniversary is also our engagement date and it is perfect!

 
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sulaii211
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sulaii211 (message)  770 posts, Busy bee

@Mrs. Sand Dollar: I completely agree.

I think I’m crazy too- but its the out- in the open crazy. It’s not so much his reaction I’m worried about- it’s the worry that I would have pressured him. So then I ask him, (crazy) if I’m pressuring- and he reassures me with all of these logical reasons for doing what we’re doing- but sometimes I don’t know if I believe it. In the end- he bought the ring and he will have to ask all by himself by his choice.

Pre-planning also has to do with cost and budget restraints. Never before were weddings so expensive- and not that they have to be- but a lot are. There is more planning and negotiated involved then ever before… and most times those discussions have to become BEFORE an expensive ring.

Thanks for being so open and honest in this post- it’s nice to hear perspective from the other side.

 
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NC Girl (message)  196 posts, Blushing bee

Seashell, I love this post! Thanks for writing it, and thanks for the reminder that the wedding is about TWO people. (Even though we girls can’t help but get excited about all the pretties!) By the way, can’t wait to see your recaps. :)

 
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MsBrooklynA
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MsBrooklynA (message)  2,681 posts, Sugar bee

I too, struggle with this. We even have my mounting purchased. The only thing we are waiting on is my center stone. You know what, it is hard not to be caught up in it. It is devistating when you feel like he’s dragging his feet but really he’s reigning you in because you are moving faster then he may be ready for.

So much of our lives are now being put on hold because we are not engaged yet and I feel that you should be married before we go on to have children, buy a home, or move somewhere new. I start to feel as if I am not as important as all of the other daily things and it really begins to mess with your emotions. I hope that you do not continue to beat yourself up for your engagement because sometimes excitement clouds our judgement. You may very well do it again in your life and I think we all make mistakes.

 
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JaffaCakes

If you are planning a wedding, YOU ARE ENGAGED. Full stop!

Let’s drop the big, romantic charade that was developed by the diamond industry.

 
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ktisthatbees
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ktisthatbees (message)  2,742 posts, Sugar bee

@Mrs. Sand Dollar: I couldn’t have said it better myself

 
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Mrs. Taco
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Mrs. Taco (message)  950 posts, Busy bee

+1 on the “shit…crazy-pants” line ;)

I didn’t get this far, but I started getting very impatient…with my ex, by the way, good thing he didn’t bite! I’d watch Whose Wedding Is It Anyway on WE network (I even included it on my Bee blurb!), go to my computer, and make notes on flowers I liked, dresses, venues in the Bay Area, etc. etc. I looked up budget worksheets and saved them, too, even trying to budget for this pretend wedding I had NO confirmation would even happen.

It seems a lot more pronounced in us ladies, but we all have a frantic need to catch up. When you see women your age getting engaged and tying the knot, it just sets of the cray-cray alarms in our heads and all logic and reason flies out the window. I think ultimately being at peace with where we are is most important, married, engaged, single, swinging or otherwise.

 
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[...] exactly starts planning their wedding before they’re engaged?  I mean, some dreaming and researching is fine, but to actually book [...]

 
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Damselfly
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Damselfly (message)  96 posts, Worker bee

So did you go through with Sept 25? Just curious b/c that was my grandfather’s birthday!

 
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Mrs. Seashell (message)  1,713 posts, Bumble bee

@Damselfly: Yes! The big day was just a little over 4 months ago :)

 
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glamfish500 (message)  262 posts, Helper bee

I felt like we were engaged when we started talking about getting a ring. He might not have gotten down on a knee yet, but we were sharing our plans with our family and that was enough for me so I totally understand how you felt about the situation. I would have started planning at that point, but it was two weeks before Thanksgiving and we agreed to hold off on anything wedding until after the new year started. I got my ring just before Christmas and while I was excited to have it and excited to tell everyone that we were engaged, it didn’t feel any more real to me at that point than it did when we had the big talk and decided we were offically getting married.

 
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Mrs. Seashell, Chicago, IL / Providence, RI Age and Occupation: 28, Marriage and Family Therapist Fiance's Age and Occupation: 31, Electrical Engineer Engagement Date: September 3, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2010 Venue: The Glen Manor House About Me: Fonts and fashion, stationery and Sundays, photography and french toast... the beauty is in the details for this fun-loving Chicagoan who loves to plan plan plan! The soon-to-be hubs plays "Mr. Fix-It" in our new condo while I swoon over beautiful, personalized stationery and choose shades of aubergine for my bridesmaids' dresses... and thus begins my new fairy tale! Skirting to the East Coast for our September nuptials where my home state of Rhode Island awaits with fall foliage, I'm just a few dress fittings and bachelorette party away from saying "I Do" to a very happy ending!

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