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Mrs. Seashell, Chicago, IL / Providence, RI Age and Occupation: 28, Marriage and Family Therapist Fiance's Age and Occupation: 31, Electrical Engineer Engagement Date: September 3, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2010 Venue: The Glen Manor House About Me: Fonts and fashion, stationery and Sundays, photography and french toast... the beauty is in the details for this fun-loving Chicagoan who loves to plan plan plan! The soon-to-be hubs plays "Mr. Fix-It" in our new condo while I swoon over beautiful, personalized stationery and choose shades of aubergine for my bridesmaids' dresses... and thus begins my new fairy tale! Skirting to the East Coast for our September nuptials where my home state of Rhode Island awaits with fall foliage, I'm just a few dress fittings and bachelorette party away from saying "I Do" to a very happy ending!
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The Heart of the Matter

February 8th, 2011 @ 3:55 pm by Mrs. Seashell

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I was never a rebellious kid. I never had that angsty teen phase where I hated everything and everyone, nor have I ever gotten myself into trouble. I’m not, and never was, the type to fight with my parents or cause a disagreement. In fact, I’m the happiest when everyone else is happy. Though, admittedly, sometimes this means backing down from asserting myself. Mr. Seashell is very similar to me in this way, except he is far better at defending his beliefs. That’s the preface.

When it came time to seriously consider our wedding ceremony, Mr. Seashell and I were on the exact same page: we did not want a Catholic Mass. However, we were both raised Catholic.

We felt equally passionate about the fact that a Catholic wedding did not reflect our beliefs and values. We talked about our vision for our wedding, the pieces that would be meaningful to us, reflect our world view as a couple, and ultimately feel right in our hearts. To us, a Catholic wedding was a lie. The idea of standing before a priest, professing that we were Catholics and intending to raise future children as such, felt dishonest. These were not our intentions. On the day where I was to make solemn vows to my life’s partner I couldn’t rationalize doing something that felt so insincere.

The time came to tell our parents our wishes. Mr. Seashell’s parents accepted the news well—they had strayed from the church and were comfortable with the idea of doing what felt right to us. They admitted that it might raise an eyebrow or two among family, but that wasn’t reason enough to discourage our plans. My family was a different story. Mama Seashell is a devout Catholic, and words like “heartbroken, devastated, ego-centric, and selfish” became part of the dialogue. Our back and fourth went on for months. During this time, I met with a priest in the spirit of staying open-minded. I just couldn’t do it. The Pre-Cana, the family planning…more importantly, the core beliefs were not my own. When I sought advice from family and friends I was surprised by how many people had a “just suck it up, that’s what we did” mentality. Then, Mrs. Meatball wrote this post, and I swore it was written for me. Finally, Mr. Seashell and I really sat down with my parents. It wasn’t pretty, but after some yelling and tears we were able to reach an understanding. It was clear that our choice was a disappointment, but the conversation eventually shifted to what our wedding ceremony was not to what it was.

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{Photos: Blink of an Eye Photography}

We found someone wonderful to marry us. She listened, collaborated, validated our thoughts, and worked hard to create the ceremony we were seeking. She cried with us when Mr. Seashell’s mom passed away just two months before our wedding, and was thoughtful in how to include her memory. She Skyped with us when we were 1,000 miles apart and needed to fine-tune the details. And, there’s a teeny, tiny rebellious part of me that loves the fact that we were married by a woman (and a lesbian at that). Sorry, Catholics.

I’ll share all the details of our ceremony soon. The carefully chosen words, the structure, the homily and the resounding sentiment in general were precisely what we desired. Getting there was a headache and caused heartache, but so worth it.

What have you found worth fighting for?

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Mrs. Meerkat
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Mrs. Meerkat (message)  3,216 posts, Sugar bee

Good for you S.! Way to hold your ground.

This was also one of things we struggled with as Mr. M. was raised catholic. At first his grandmother was really disappointed but ya know what? After our secular ceremony she walked up with tears in her eyes and told us it was the most beautiful wedding ever.

 
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Miss OBG
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Miss OBG (message)  1,272 posts, Bumble bee

I think it’s wonderful that you chose to make your wedding your own, and wouldn’t compromise your beliefs. I’m being married by a rabbi, and she is a dear friend of our family, but there are many religious ideas and views that FI and I don’t really agree with (we’re not really religious, at all). We sat down with the rabbi to painstakingly discuss what we are and are not comfortable with, and I think our ceremony is going to turn out really wonderfully.

 
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Mrs. Trail Mix (message)  6,328 posts, Bee Keeper

Beautiful post and you were right, this was definitely something worth fighting for…I’m sorry your mom didn’t take it too well but ultimately, it was you and Mr S’s wedding ceremony, not hers, so bravo to you both for standing up for what you believe in!

 
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missbiscuit
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missbiscuit (message)  1,050 posts, Bumble bee

“And, there’s a teeny, tiny rebellious part of me that loves the fact that we were married by a woman (and a lesbian at that). Sorry, Catholics.”
Love this!

 
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chrispygal
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chrispygal (message)  1,113 posts, Bumble bee

Yay! I’m so excited for the recaps. I love that you both stood your ground and fought for what was most important to you!

 
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kirabee
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kirabee (message)  1,402 posts, Bumble bee

Good for you, Seashell! Great post!

 
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sparks
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sparks (message)  649 posts, Busy bee

I am glad you stood up for a wedding ceremony that was true to yourselves and your beliefs. No one should have to sacrifice their personal views on their wedding day. Great post.

 
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MsBrooklynA
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MsBrooklynA (message)  2,681 posts, Sugar bee

Beautiful words written by an exceptionally beautiful bride. I think that so many Catholics go the “just suck it up” route and then it seems as if you are stuck in a religion you didn’t necessarily like or believe in the first place. I find it extremely refreshing that you have chosen to go against the norm and do what was best for you and Mr. Seashell. Thank you for being open and honest throughout this entire time as a bee. It means the world to a lot of us.

 
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therascalqueen
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therascalqueen (message)  112 posts, Blushing bee

My fiance was raised Catholic but is an atheist, and I’m Catholic but with progressive leanings and values. Neither of us wanted a Catholic ceremony, and luckily, we haven’t gotten blowback as strong as you did yet. However, I was surprised that both our moms independently suggested that my fiance should “just lie” so we can have a Catholic ceremony. Um, what?!

Thanks for posting on this topic–I know it’s hard but good for you for sticking to your values!

 
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Kinsey123 (message)  69 posts, Worker bee

My fiance and I were both raised religious, but neither of has have clung to those values as we got older. My parents know me and took it very well…his parents on the other hand tend to live in denial and feel like “we’ll come around some day.” When I mentioned that we wouldn’t be having a church wedding led by a pastor, they literally told us that if we weren’t married in a church, we would never be seen as married in their eyes at all. This was a huge deal because in his family, marriage is the final step into adulthood and we were/are looking forward to that approval. I’m a big rule follower, so I took it pretty hard. After an EXTREMELY heated discussion (that remains the only time I’ve ever seen my fiance cry) they took back what they said and blamed it on their shock at being told that we were straying from the path they’ve always wanted for their son. We’ve moved past the issue, but we don’t have an officiant for our wedding yet and I honestly dread the decisions that I know are coming. I appreciate you talking about this difficult issue and you should know that many of us can relate to your situation.

 
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Mrs. Cardigan
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Mrs. Cardigan (message)  8,645 posts, Bee Keeper

I’m so, so glad that you chose to go with what was important to you. Mr. Cardigan and I had a similar issue with our ceremony and we really stuck to our guns - and it turned out perfect!

 
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PitBulLover
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PitBulLover (message)  8,314 posts, Bee Keeper

Im glad that you guys stood up for what you believe in and were able to do something that fit both of you!

 
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Ms. Library
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Ms. Library (message)  1,250 posts, Bumble bee

Mr. Library was raised Catholic, and while he isn’t devout, he wanted to have a religious ceremony. I am Protestant and didn’t want a Catholic mass at all since I wouldn’t be able to participate in most of it, so we agreed that our officiant would need to be willing to be sect-neutral. Having to say that I would raise any future children Catholic was an absolute no-go. I also wanted it to be known that we supported the marriage of EVERYONE, which was super important as many of our friends and relatives are in the gay community. We ended up finding a wonderful priest from Mr. Library’s undergrad college who was demoted because of his open stance to gay marriage and women as priests, so we were both happy!

 
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JeniRae

Awesome post! Be proud of yourselves!

 
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Mrs. Spaniel (message)  6,792 posts, Bee Keeper

Yes to all of this.

 
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MsJeep23
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MsJeep23 (message)  1,375 posts, Bumble bee

I’m so glad you both were able to create a beautiful ceremony that is your own! You all look so happy in these photos :)
I do want to say though, that I found this line to be somewhat dismissive to us liberal Catholics in the audience: ‘“And, there’s a teeny, tiny rebellious part of me that loves the fact that we were married by a woman (and a lesbian at that). Sorry, Catholics.” I know you didn’t mean it like that. I appreciate the fact that your officiant was a woman, and I’m Catholic!

 
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UrbanAlaskan
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UrbanAlaskan (message)  102 posts, Blushing bee

I was raised Catholic and was practicing until a couple of years ago, but drifted away for a lot of the same reasons other people do. My fiance is culturally Jewish and realistically agnostic. We’re having a civil ceremony performed by one of his close friends from college, a nondenominational minister. Even though I knew a Catholic ceremony wasn’t right for us (I could never ask him to make the promises he would be asked to make, and I don’t know that I could make them myself), I felt a little twinge of something (regret? jealousy? sadness? all three?) when we went to a friend’s wedding Mass last summer, knowing that I wouldn’t receive that sacrament from the church I grew up in. Despite the fact that I don’t participate in the Church anymore and I know our wedding will be wonderful and meaningful and real, it’s hard to let go of the ritual I was raised with. It’s nice to read everyone’s comments and be reminded that I’m not the only one who’s struggled with her relationship with religion!

 
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MissKabers (message)  114 posts, Blushing bee

Mrs. Seashell-does your officiant travel? My FI and I are looking for someone for our ceremony and she sounds fabulous! We will be getting married in MA-and I figure having a lesbian officiant for a lesbian wedding would be quite fitting :) Thanks so so much for any information!

And also-BEAUTIFUL wedding! I have loved following your posts!

 
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lolo7835 (message)  558 posts, Busy bee

Love your ceremony! Such a beautiful wedding
@MsJeep23: I kinda felt the same when I first read it, but like you I had to remind myself that it was more ‘catholic church’ than catholics. I’m stoked you had a woman to! And that you had a ceremony that was perfect for you and your hubby!

 
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Mrs. Seashell (message)  1,713 posts, Bumble bee

@MsJeep23: I absolutely did not mean to offend. I typed and deleted that line several times before posting because I worried it would come off as snarky. There are many liberal Catholics in my life who are more than open-minded. My comment was directed at the “church” who denies women and gays the authority to marry.
@MissKabers: PM me for her info! She’s fantastic!

 
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Mrs. Seashell, Chicago, IL / Providence, RI Age and Occupation: 28, Marriage and Family Therapist Fiance's Age and Occupation: 31, Electrical Engineer Engagement Date: September 3, 2009 Wedding Date: September 2010 Venue: The Glen Manor House About Me: Fonts and fashion, stationery and Sundays, photography and french toast... the beauty is in the details for this fun-loving Chicagoan who loves to plan plan plan! The soon-to-be hubs plays "Mr. Fix-It" in our new condo while I swoon over beautiful, personalized stationery and choose shades of aubergine for my bridesmaids' dresses... and thus begins my new fairy tale! Skirting to the East Coast for our September nuptials where my home state of Rhode Island awaits with fall foliage, I'm just a few dress fittings and bachelorette party away from saying "I Do" to a very happy ending!

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