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Mrs. Jaguar, Sydney Age and Occupation: 27, Primary School Teacher Fiance's Age and Occupation: 29, IT Consultant Engagement Date: August 8, 2009 Wedding Date: June 2011 Venue: Curzon Hall About Me: I'm an Australian girl who is a self-proclaimed nerd, loves all things stationery and would be lost without books, music and the internet. Mr. Jaguar and I have been together for the past eight years and he finally popped the question last August. Hurrah! We currently live in Sydney, Australia with our adorable cat who thinks he's a person. We're a couple who likes to multi-task: we've been planning a wedding abroad, a permanent move from London to Sydney, and preparing to build our own home all at the same time. Travelling makes me giddy...as does Mr. Jaguar, of course!
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Getting To Know Youuuuuuuu

April 26th, 2011 @ 11:54 am by Mrs. Jaguar

So. Pre-wedding counselling. We came, we talked, we conquered.

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No, no, it certainly wasn’t as cynical as that image suggests, I promise!

The weekend was run through Engaged Encounter, which is a Catholic organisation that runs these courses all over the world. There were about 20 couples present, so it was quite a big group. The overall gist of the weekend went something like this:

  • Presenting couple talks about a subject to the group
  • Group encouraged to ask questions and go into subject further
  • One person within the couple leaves to go to their designated ‘personal sharing space,’ while the other person remains in the conference room
  • 15 minutes of writing time in a journal form—independently
  • Couple meets together in ‘personal sharing space’ to read other’s answers and discuss them, as well as looking into other questions/prompts

I’ll admit it: initially, I was nervous. While we’re both Catholic by faith, Mr. Jaguar is much stricter than I am—and I’m always wary of having things forced upon me without my choosing. Thankfully, my fears turned out to be nothing. First of all, while YES, there are certainly very ‘Catholic’ viewpoints in all of the presentations, they are mainly focusing on the relationship aspect, first and foremost. Things like communication strategies, forgiveness, life priorities: they relate to couples of all faiths and religions. And, while this may not be true of all Engaged Encounter weekends, I never felt as though I was being lectured to or having any views imposed on me—you could basically take the information given and do with it whatever you choose.

It was a LONG weekend. We were there from 9AM-9PM on the Saturday, then again from 9AM-4PM on the Sunday. Both nights  we came home completely drained. It was a good kind of drained, but all the same… we were exhausted. Be prepared for coming out of it feeling like you’ve run a marathon. The one thing I will say about our particular course? They definitely aimed it at couples who hadn’t been together for very long. Some of the questions, the very basic questions, were covered in great detail…and these were things that we’d covered in our own relationship years ago.

Mr. Jaguar and I went into this with similar ideas in mind—we weren’t in it to learn something new about the other, but we were curious to see what we would find out about ourselves. After nine years together, there’s not much that we don’t know about each other, you know? It was reassuring to share answers with each other and realise that we are on the same page about the big life decisions we’ll need to make in the future: and the things we have different viewpoints on are ones we’ve come to love and accept about the other. We have a good little partnership, he and I. Now it’s time to battle down and just get hitched already!

Did you and your partner ever go through pre-wedding counselling? How did it go for you?

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mrs.ball2b (message)  126 posts, Blushing bee

Thanks for the great post! The FI & I will be attending Engaged Encounter as well. I am Catholic, he’s Christian. I’m anxious/excited to go…I’ve heard from many different people that it’s pretty intense & quite the eye-opener. I’m looking forward to that.

 
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Miss Tartlet (message)  3,207 posts, Sugar bee

That weekend sounds intense! Glad you were able to reaffirm that you two are on the same wavelength. :)

 
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Miss Pony (message)  4,180 posts, Honey bee

I agree with Tarlet, intense! But what a good feeling to know you are both on the same page for things!

 
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Miss Candy Apple (message)  1,465 posts, Bumble bee

:) Glad you enjoyed the experience! I really liked our Pre-Cana day, although I do wish it had been a full weekend, like yours.

 
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Miss Snow Cone (message)  1,026 posts, Bumble bee

we’re doing an engaged encounter next month, and I am tired just listening to yours! Better start eating my carbs, eh? ;)

 
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DianaLynn (message)  197 posts, Blushing bee

I felt the exact same way about our engaged encounter. I know some people have had bad experiences but I’m glad yours went well.

 
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diamondscan (message)  138 posts, Blushing bee

Haha… oh dear I just switched over from a firefox tab on the running of the brides post and I saw 9am-9pm both days and thought “Wow! That’s a looong time to look for wedding dresses in a ROTB!” but then realised it’s counseling. Lol.

I’m glad your session wasn’t too overbearing! We are similar in that we are both Catholic but not really fanatic, so it’s great the the sessions are really mostly about communication and focussing on the relationships!

Ours was held in Zurich, Switzerland, where the Catholic community (or religious community in general) is not very “strong” so the course ended up being very liberal and open-minded. I think they realised lots of us are already living together, some had kids, and about half the group had already done civil unions for legal reasons, but were planning their Catholic weddings still. (We are in that last boat!)

 
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Lo (message)  538 posts, Busy bee

We did a Pre-Cana seminar and although I enjoyed it I agree that we did discuss some very basic topics that FI and I have talked about over the years as a natural part of our relationship. Like you said, it was nice to reaffirm that we are on the same page.

 
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kelsgurl (message)  279 posts, Helper bee

We’re doing our Engaged Encounter weekend in May and I’m definitely looking forward to it. Like you said, when you’ve been together for a looooong time, we’re not really expecting to learn a lot about each other that we didn’t already know, but it will be a good time to open up communication about things we maybe haven’t talked about in-depth, and I’m sure we’ll learn a lot about ourselves.

Thanks for the post, Jaguar!

 
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klachance18 (message)  177 posts, Blushing bee

A whole weekend?! Wow! My fiancé and I are taking the FOCCUS test on May 11, then we have to go back June 11 to discuss our results. It’s a day long (10am to 5pm) event. Then we’re good to go. I can’t imagine a whole weekend! Well done!

 
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Ms. Ferris Wheel (message)  345 posts, Helper bee

I may not be Catholic, but I do appreciate that the church places such a high value on having these conversations before the wedding (as opposed to after). Congrats on making it through and still loving each other on the other side. ;-)

 
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Lida (message)  603 posts, Busy bee

Oh man, I definitely know what you mean by being drained. Ours was a month ago, started Friday night (7-10pm), all day Saturday (8am-10pm), and part of Sunday (9am-1pm). It was exhausting, and we didn’t really learn anything earthshatteringly new, but it was a great chance to step away from the wedding planning and general life stress, and just focus on each other for 2 1/2 days. I loved it.

 
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Miss Seal (message)  1,179 posts, Bumble bee

We get to choose between an EE weekend or a single day. I’ve, admittedly, been quite nervous (for the same reasons you’ve mentioned) but it’s reassuring to hear it wasn’t too intimidating! Maybe we’ll opt for the EE too! ;)

 
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Miss Jaguar (message)  4,656 posts, Honey bee

@mrs.ball2b: Intense yes, but definitely a good experience! We went into it thinking it couldn’t hurt… and it didn’t. I hope you have a great time!

@Miss Tartlet: Heck yes, we slept well those nights! :)

 
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Miss Biscuit (message)  625 posts, Busy bee

Thus far, our priest hasn’t asked us to do anything. It’s actually a little awkward. I’m kind of avoiding him because I don’t want to take the test or anything. Mr B and I have talked about all of this stuff, and all of my weekends until the wedding are booked. So I will continue to avoid Father Mark as much as humanly possible haha.

 
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Miss Jaguar (message)  4,656 posts, Honey bee

@Miss Pony: Thanks, Miss P. We definitely thought it was worth while. :)

@Miss Candy Apple: In a way, a day would’ve been good - the second day was TOUGH to get through!

 
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Miss Jaguar (message)  4,656 posts, Honey bee

@Miss Snow Cone: Take some lollies in your bag to perk you up! Ours had lots of yummy food (home made scones! cakes! mini sammiches! yum!) but we still snacked on sweets to get us through. :)

@DianaLynn: I think having an open mind really makes a difference. Glad you had a good experience too!

 
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Miss Jaguar (message)  4,656 posts, Honey bee

@diamondscan: Haha, phew! That’s a whole lot of shopping, right there! ;) Liberal is good. It’s the best way to get everyone there and not preach to them.. I’m glad that didn’t end up happening in our case!

@Lo: Glad I’m not alone - I was getting a little bored in some of the topics, so if we finished quickly, we used that free time to talk wedding! ;)

 
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Miss Jaguar (message)  4,656 posts, Honey bee

@kelsgurl: Awesome! I’m glad this post was useful - enjoy your experience, and I hope you guys get a lot out of it. :)

@klachance18: We skipped FOCCUS, since our priest thought we’d be fine without it - but it would’ve still been interesting to do it, I reckon! You’re doing your meeting on our wedding day, hehe. (I’m a dork.)

 
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Miss Jaguar (message)  4,656 posts, Honey bee

@Ms. Ferris Wheel: Thanks! If there’s one thing I’m behind, it’s the church’s view on having healthy, life-long relationships. Isn’t that what we all want? :)

@Lida: wow, THREE days? You are a rockstar!

 
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Mrs. Jaguar, Sydney Age and Occupation: 27, Primary School Teacher Fiance's Age and Occupation: 29, IT Consultant Engagement Date: August 8, 2009 Wedding Date: June 2011 Venue: Curzon Hall About Me: I'm an Australian girl who is a self-proclaimed nerd, loves all things stationery and would be lost without books, music and the internet. Mr. Jaguar and I have been together for the past eight years and he finally popped the question last August. Hurrah! We currently live in Sydney, Australia with our adorable cat who thinks he's a person. We're a couple who likes to multi-task: we've been planning a wedding abroad, a permanent move from London to Sydney, and preparing to build our own home all at the same time. Travelling makes me giddy...as does Mr. Jaguar, of course!

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