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Mrs. Pony, Bloomington, IL Age and Occupation: 25, Attorney Fiance's Age and Occupation: 34, Attorney Engagement Date: March 22, 2010 Wedding Date: September 2011 Venue: Mackinaw Valley Vineyard; Bloomington Center for the Performing Arts About Me: I found my Southern counterpart in law school and since he popped the question last March, we have been busy graduating, job searching, bar taking, and wedding planning. My loves include must see TV, magnets, quotes, anything green, my car, fun socks, the Cubs, and my Mr. Together we love wine, playing outside, and exploring the world together. Stay tuned to see our Midwest wedding full of Southern charm, vintage flair, lots of DIY details, and a whole lot o’ wine.
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Kids Versus No Kids: The Argument

May 19th, 2011 @ 11:16 am by Mrs. Pony

The practice of law, and thus my everyday life, is quite boring on a daily basis, so I try to spice up the perception of my professional life and my everyday wedding decisions with elaborate made-up scenes. Indulge me, please.

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A weary judge enters the courtroom for the final arguments in a hotly contested case. As the spectators sit at his request, a deafening quiet fills the room. In a tone that can only be described as disinterested nothingness, the judge breaks the silence.

The Court: We are back in open court on case number 11 W 101. The attorneys and jury members are present. Are you prepared to proceed with closing argument?

Attorneys: Yes, Your Honor.

The Court: Mr. Kidd, you may proceed.

Mr. Kidd: Thank you, Your Honor. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this is not an easy issue to decide, which is why we ask you to listen to all the arguments and facts before making any decisions.

We have heard a lot of evidence in this case, but I just want to remind you of a few key reasons why you should side with us and invite kids to your wedding.

First off, and most obviously, kids are cute. At weddings, kids get dressed up, they dance, and they make everyone smile. Their joy and happiness is contagious and will positively affect each of your wedding guests.

But, if you don’t believe me, just take a look at some of the exhibits we saw during the trial:

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Exhibit #1

{Photo by Daryl Chan via Artistic Guild of Wedding Photojournalist Assn.}

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Exhibit #2

{Photo by Raymond Phang via Artistic Guild of Wedding Photojournalist Assn.}

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Exhibit #3

{Photo by Frank Amodo via Bridal Banter}

I also want to bring up a point that we heard about a lot from opposing counsel throughout the trial. You heard countless times that inviting kids will add mightily to the overall cost of your wedding. However, a vast majority of caterers do not charge for children’s meals or provide hefty discounts. Additionally, the monetary costs of including children are far outweighed by the social good that will come from including children in your wedding.

For example, think about the memories the little ones at your wedding will be creating and remembering for years to come. You might inspire some little boy or girl with the details of your wedding that they will be dreaming about far into the future.

To illustrate this point, I implore you to look at Exhibits 4 and 5 and imagine having this moment with a special child on your wedding day.

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Exhibit #4

{Photo by Taras Omelchenko via Artistic Guild of Wedding Photojournalist Assn.}

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Exhibit #5

{Photo by Sandra von Riekhoff via Artistic Guild of Wedding Photojournalist Assn.}

Finally, I want to leave you with one thought. Weddings are about love. They are about sharing that love with those around you, including those children that are close to you.

So I ask that when you make you decision, you think about all of the reasons I have mentioned, but mostly think about sharing love with the children in your lives. Thank you for your time and attention.

The Court: Thank you, Mr. Kidd. Ms. Realle, do you have any response?

Ms. Realle: Yes, you honor. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Kidd just painted you a lovely picture of how children can be included in your wedding, but I am here to bring you back to reality. The reality that kids can and will ruin everything they get their hands on, including your wedding.

First, I want to point out that people wanting an adult-only reception do not dislike children; to the contrary, most of us love children. But, we recognize that a wedding, with alcohol and dancing until the wee hours of the morning, may not be an appropriate place for children.

Next, I want you to think about experiences in your own life where a child has made a scene or caused trouble at an inappropriate time. Perhaps it was a family dinner at a restaurant, or at that movie you wanted to see, or maybe it was at a wedding where all you remember about the ceremony is the child behind you screaming or crying.

Children are unpredictable by nature. Why risk an epic meltdown ruining the wedding you have planned for over a year and have given up indulgences for so that you could afford the party?

I can give many examples, but these exhibits tell the real story of how children will behave throughout your wedding:

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Exhibit #6

{Photo by Jamie Reichman via Artistic Guild of Wedding Photojournalist Assn.}

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Exhibit #7

{Photo by Carolynn Shelby via Artistic Guild of Wedding Photojournalist Assn.}

Furthermore, children are inherently curious and tend to touch things they shouldn’t. Kids cannot control themselves from exploring the most important, expensive, and dangerous elements of a wedding.

As you see in Exhibit 8, kids naturally gravitate toward the things that are breakable:

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Exhibit #8

{Photo by Kenny Nakai via Artistic Guild of Wedding Photojournalist Assn.}

Or, kids may try to sneak a lick of that beautiful and delicious cake you’ve dreamed about for months:

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Exhibit #9

{Photo by Anna Kuperberg via Artistic Guild of Wedding Photojournalist Assn.}

What’s worse is when the parents don’t pay the attention they should and allow their kids to get into anything and everything at a wedding, including the booze:

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Exhibit #10

{Photo by Bartosz Jastal via Artistic Guild of Wedding Photojournalist Assn.}

Without constant vigilance, kids have a tendency to get their little hands on everything. Their parents do not want to spend the entire wedding watching and disciplining their children and neither do you. That is why children are better left at home, where they are in their natural environment of chaos and destruction.

Finally, I want to leave you with these images in Exhibits 6 though 10 and let you imagine how you would feel if these were from your wedding day—your ceremony or your reception. Think about the hard-earned money and countless hours you have spent planning a day that you hope to be perfect.

The Court: Thank you, Ms. Realle. Any rebuttal, Mr. Kidd?

Mr. Kidd: Yes, very briefly, Judge. Ladies and gentlemen, I just want to leave you with one thought. Every wedding will have small imperfections happen throughout the day. One of these moments, as captured wonderfully in Exhibit 11, was only possible because of the curious heart of a child.

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Exhibit #11

{Photo by David Murray via Facebook}

You cannot control everything on your wedding day and, when something does go wrong, I hope you can smile and appreciate that in the grand scheme of things, you still married the person of your dreams. I want you to embrace these moments, and when you relive them with your family and friends for years to come, you can think back on your wedding day and its youngest guests with a smile. Thank you again.

The Court: Thank you, Counsel. The jury instructions are as follows: use common sense and do what you think is best for your wedding day. The jury is now dismissed to commence deliberations.

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Who would you side with in this case? Which side do you think we chose?

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26 Responses to “Kids Versus No Kids: The Argument”

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tink4kali
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tink4kali (message)  66 posts, Worker bee

Awesome post! I’m totally with Mr. Kidd. Children bring a sort of magic to special events, seeing things through their eyes is so much fun. I can’t wait to see kids at my fiance and my wedding.

 
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cyneswith (message)  1,003 posts, Bumble bee

Kids! We had about a dozen at ours - not one scream, the flower girl was essentially a precocious bridesmaid, and they MADE that reception! They were so sweet.

 
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toshella
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toshella (message)  642 posts, Busy bee

Awww that’s a cute argument! We’re having kids at our wedding, but thankfully it wasn’t a hard decision because we don’t have many friends/family with young kids! Aside from the flower boy and ring bearer the only other child will be my newborn nephew - and yes, he may cry and scream at inappropriate times, but he’s not even born yet and I love him to peices. So it’s okay. :)

 
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Miss Seal
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Miss Seal (message)  1,179 posts, Bumble bee

Lol. Love this! I ended up on Ms. Realle’s side in terms of our own wedding. Given our venue, the time of the wedding, the added costs we would endure…kids just weren’t in the picture for us.

 
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ExtraCool Person
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ExtraCool Person (message)  22 posts, Newbee

i HAVE to include kids… i have a 7yo boy and a 8month girl.
we are hiring two of our closest sitters to help out at the reception which has an open bar and plenty of stuff to knock over.
Quite a few of our guests just had kids, and they would like to be there, they’ll probably just leave alittle early.
we are allowed up to 10 kids (aged 2 - 11) and will not be charged for them. Babies are free.

 
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TheFutureMcBride
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TheFutureMcBride (message)  4,479 posts, Honey bee

Love this! We only had one kid, but she was adorable and well behaved. In September, we’re going to a wedding with Wombat, who will be about a month old. I’m totally freaked and trying to get my husband to agree to let me find someone to watch Wombat during the ceremony.

 
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Mrs. Elephant
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Mrs. Elephant (message)  6,182 posts, Bee Keeper

Haha, awesome!

 
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Miss Canaras
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Miss Canaras (message)  62 posts, Worker bee

Ugh, this is such a tough topic…. On one hand, I have 2 adorable nephews who I would love to have at the wedding, and my SO and I both have young cousins we’d want there, but on the other hand, so many family members have kids, we would end up with just as many, if not more, children than adults!

 
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Miss High Wire (message)  754 posts, Busy bee

Kids! I never even knew people threw weddings where kids weren’t invited until I started reading wedding blogs. Just because they are young/unpredictable doesn’t mean they aren’t still a part of the family - and celebrating family is definitely part of our wedding motif.

 
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Nicole

Thinking about having children at our wedding was something we had to consider (since we were looking at art museums and galleries for our venue choice with LOTS of breakable things that we’d have to pay for). If it wasn’t for that fact that my FI has a niece, we probably would have gone with no kids - but when its immediate family, you can’t say no! Luckily we picked a museum for our venue where things aren’t as breakable!

 
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lolo7835 (message)  558 posts, Busy bee

My whole things are-kids are cute until they aren’t. I love kids. Love em. But I’ve been to to many weddings where disasters have happened (and yes small things happen, but pulling down a cake, spilling cranberry juice on the bride, and crying loudly throughout the entire ceremony aren’t small things in my mind). Although honestly, that’s more parents than anything else.

For us it is about numbers. We are including family kids-which brings us to about 10. Still to many in my opinion, but I know they are all well behaved and I know then so I can always pull them aside and talk to them. But if all of my friends who have kids come, that’s 30 children under the age of 10. And that will turn into romp a room-which is exactly what happened at a friend’s wedding that invited all those kids. One kid almost pulled down the tent, two of them got into the cake, and the crying. My god the crying.

So alas, no kids for our wedding-but since most friends were at romp a room wedding, they are all actually pretty happy about it, so we are lucky in that sense.

 
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dalzien

We actually don’t have children in our family (the youngest person is 18 years old), but a wedding we went to had children and they were a menace. The boys, aged 10-13, grouped together and proceeded to flood the bathroom when they stuffed the toilets with paper towel and toilet paper to keep busy, and then proceeded to run amok (as the parents were too busy drinking to care). The couple had to pay for the damages and clean-up charges (!) these boys caused, which I can’t imagine is cheap. We’ve been to weddings where kids have been great, and quite cute, but one was enough to make us realize it isn’t worth the hassle (or money unfortunately), to have them at a wedding.

 
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Miss Gazelle (message)  994 posts, Busy bee

Wow, such a well written post - one of my favourites on whether to invite children or not. Our wedding is primarily adults only with the exception of my almost four year old niece (who is our flower girl) and two newborns (one belonging to my BM, another to my cousin). Otherwise, no kids but that is mostly because we just don’t have the room!

 
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Caribee (message)  36 posts, Newbee

This post is officially in my top 3 favourites I’ve ever read on WB!! Well done! We are siding with Mr. Kidd…though honestly, I agree with Ms. Realle. Sigh…the compromises we make for family… :)

 
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Ryna
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Ryna (message)  4,207 posts, Honey bee

We’re gonna have kids. But then, we also have kids and there are several nephews and a niece to contend with, too. (All but two are gonna be IN the wedding! YAY!)

Since there are so many wee ones invited and the location is going to be kid-friendly and safe, it was a no-brainer to allow the parents the choice of bringing their kids.

Some parents, despite the invite to bring their kids, will choose to leave them home simply so they can enjoy an adults’ night out. (We did this for a friend’s wedding… plus the drive would’ve worn ‘em out waaaay too much, lol.)

 
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Melanie11
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Melanie11 (message)  560 posts, Busy bee

I loved this post and the “exhibits.” Hilarious!

There aren’t currently many small children in my family. In my immediate and extended family most of the kids right now are more along the lines of preteens and teens. I love kids, but just for purposes of size and budget we’re going to have to draw a line somewhere. I’m thinking it’ll only be kids of immediate family and out-of-town guests. If we started inviting the kids of my parents’ cousins, there’d be like 400 people at the wedding and it would be certifiably insane.

 
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Melissa

No kids for us…except for the 3 who are in the wedding (my nephew and nieces). It was actually really easy for us–we’re getting married at a winery and it will be a destination wedding for most guests. Not a hard sale at all for people to enjoy a romantic weekend in wine country and leave the kids behind. :-)

 
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xtatic1
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xtatic1 (message)  778 posts, Busy bee

Cute post! We are only having our 2 flower girls and my FH’s sisters kids because they live out of state. My mom KEEPS bugging me to allow other kids but we only have 120 seats and I don’t want to fill them with kids.

 
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Jessica2014
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Jessica2014 (message)  51 posts, Worker bee

We dont have any young children in our families only two in two of our friends (two couples) so we opted for no children. Only two out of all of the guests seems like they will probably get bored or tired of just each other. Plus the one is way to young.

 
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mrsbowieii
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mrsbowieii (message)  692 posts, Busy bee

I side with Ms. Realle on this one. I’ve been to too many weddings where I have seen children do everything from burst out in tears during the ceremony to throwing things at the cake because they couldn’t reach it.

Yea I think Ms Realle said best with, “That is why children are better left at home, where they are in their natural environment of chaos and destruction.”

 
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Mrs. Pony, Bloomington, IL Age and Occupation: 25, Attorney Fiance's Age and Occupation: 34, Attorney Engagement Date: March 22, 2010 Wedding Date: September 2011 Venue: Mackinaw Valley Vineyard; Bloomington Center for the Performing Arts About Me: I found my Southern counterpart in law school and since he popped the question last March, we have been busy graduating, job searching, bar taking, and wedding planning. My loves include must see TV, magnets, quotes, anything green, my car, fun socks, the Cubs, and my Mr. Together we love wine, playing outside, and exploring the world together. Stay tuned to see our Midwest wedding full of Southern charm, vintage flair, lots of DIY details, and a whole lot o’ wine.

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