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Mrs. Bunting, Grand Rapids, MI Age and Occupation: 24, freelance illustrator & print production Fiance's Age and Occupation: 24, graduate of history Engagement Date: December 3, 2009 Wedding Date: June 2011 Venue: Spring Grove Park & St. George Banquet Center About Me: I am a freelance illustrator and designer with a love of nature and a taste for adventure. Textures and color fuel my world, along with apple cider and noodles. I'll try anything once, especially if it involves heights or food. I've hiked the Grand Canyon, gone sky diving, cuddled a baby wolf, and now my latest venture consists of designing and planning a large wedding involving color, DIY details, love, and marrying my best friend.
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I’m trying hard not to freak out. I’m trying really hard, but a few weeks ago I went home early from work with a migraine and nausea.

There’s a small—very real, but small—chance we will not be able to go on our international honeymoon.

There’s a small, ever scarier, and still very real chance that we will not be able to get legally married on our wedding day.

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I don’t mean to be a drama llama, but that freaks me out. A lot. Now I’m sure you’re wondering why and how, so let me explain.

Mr. Bunting was adopted. More importantly, Mr. Bunting was adopted from Japan. Even though he’s been living in the U.S. for pretty much his entire life, we’re having a hard time proving he’s a U.S. citizen to get his passport. After he talked to our local court and post office regarding requirements, we submitted all of the paperwork we had in hopes that whoever reviewed it would say (with a classy accent), “Oh, why yes, I can see from these things that he is indeed a citizen of the United States. Approved!”

That was not the case. We got a letter saying they needed additional documents. We had one of the two documents, but the other…well, we had no idea what it was or where to get it. And that was the most frustrating thing because we didn’t even know where to begin. We’ve since tried calling the passport-agency hotline, the Japanese embassy in Washington, D.C., and even Japan herself. OK, not the country as a whole, but Mr. Bunting had a phone number only to discover he can’t make international calls on his cell phone.

Now for the other kicker. Mr. Bunting does not have a birth certificate. At least none of us have one for him. And you know what you need a birth certificate for? A marriage license. Yep. So no getting legally married without one. It has to exist somewhere, right?

Worst-case scenario: We push back our honeymoon until we have his passport. We bought cancel-for-any-reason insurance, so as much as it would suck to not go on our honeymoon two days after the wedding, it’s doable. As for the wedding itself, my mom assured me that we could still go through with everything and not tell anyone. Then, once we have a birth certificate, we can get legally married at the courthouse. This is doable, too, but I really want to get married in every way on our wedding day. I can just see myself smiling one moment and then, when we’re pronounced married, hysterically sobbing and crying out “It’s all LIES!” (<- That’s the drama llama talking again.)

I know we’ll figure this out, one way or another. Fortunately we still have some time, though the window is getting smaller. But we will be married. It’s just getting there that’s so hard.

Has anyone else experienced major obstacles like this? And if you or your SO was adopted, especially from another country, please, please, please start organizing all those important documents now. Because if you don’t have them already, it may require some time to get them, and you don’t want to be in a situation like this. Because this sucks. Oh, there’s that llama again.

Stay tuned for part II of our ongoing passport saga!

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Courtney

I’m not sure if you’ve tried speaking to a visa/passport agency but I work for one and we have visa and passport experts on staff (in DC) that might be able to help your fiance get a passport…it’s worth a shot. http://www.washingtonexpressvisas.com or 877-675-5571

 
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Courtnee (message)  153 posts, Blushing bee

Where are you getting married? I’m in Ohio and all we had to do was lift our right hand, swear we weren’t drunk or related and they gave us the certificate. The offiant signs it, sends it in and we are married! We had to give our social security numbers but no birth certificates… each state is different though, I guess.

 
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tanalea123 (message)  57 posts, Worker bee

I know someone who had this same thing happen, except her parents had been charged with producing false birth certificates in the past and they were questioning hers……she called her state legislator and bam! it was all solved….got her passport a week before the wedding! its worth a shot………the squeaky wheel always gets the oil…….:) good luck

 
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kumquat11 (message)  111 posts, Blushing bee

You could zip over to Colorado for a quick informal wedding! All you need is a SSN, appropriate names of parents and birthplace (but no birth certificate), and to swear that you aren’t related. For no additional fee, you can even marry yourselves (i.e., no officiant fees - that’s what we did), and then turn in the certificate (they’ll tell you where to sign)!

 
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KCheer (message)  370 posts, Helper bee

Oh so sorry Bunting - I am sending good luck vibes your way!

 
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Leprechaun (message)  907 posts, Busy bee

I’m not sure what Michigan’s law is, but Indiana you just need proof of age, so a driver’s license is enough.

 
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Miss Bunting
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Miss Bunting (message)  458 posts, Helper bee

@Courtney: Thanks for the info! I’m not sure which place Mr. Bunting has been calling (it was a number that was listed on the letter we received), but any lead is a great lead.
@Courtnee: It’s a Michigan wedding, and our county requires birth certificates for both of us.
@tanalea123: This wheel intends to squeak nonstop, too! We haven’t contacted our state legislator yet, but that’s a wonderful idea.
@kumquat11: Married in the mountains of Colorado? Yes, please!
@KCheer: Thanks! We’ll take all the good vibes we can get!

 
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Justin

So sorry! I have no help to offer, just luck and prayers. Best to you. I know you’ll find the right person sitting in front of the right computer who can click OK and fix this!

 
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Cori

You might have already considered this but you might have luck calling city hall where Mr. B was living before the adoption. I don’t know how the family records laws work for adoption situations outside of Japan but normally there would be a record somewhere in the family record. Even if they can’t locate a family record, there might be something else on file. Another piece of proof might be the Mother-Child book that all mothers are given to keep records of a child’s prenatal and early childhood development. I imagine it would be hard to find that one now though if you didn’t already have it.

Good luck getting all the documents you need! The Passport people are not my favorite either. Due to a weird combination of laws, I had to get adopted by my own biological parent and have my birth certificate reissued before they’d give me a passport. Absolutely crazy!

 
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TheFutureMcBride (message)  4,479 posts, Honey bee

Good luck! Hopefully, when you give us part II, everything will settle out and there’s no more problems with this. Crossing my fingers.

 
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Miss Pony (message)  4,171 posts, Honey bee

I hope part II of this story has a happy, stress free ending, but if not, thinking good thoughts for the Buntings that this all works out well.

 
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Miss High Wire (message)  754 posts, Busy bee

Good luck! It looks like some of the other commenters gave you some good direction to at least try to get this sorted out.

 
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MrsSl82be
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MrsSl82be (message)  7,970 posts, Bee Keeper

Yeah, we didn’t need birth certificates in MD, hell only one of us had to go!!! Which is crazy, because with limited info (social, birthdate) I could have gotten a license to marry anyone!
Sorry that you do, but maybe calling the US embassy would help lead you to the right direction?? I hope you guys can get this figured out. Any chance his parents know the agency where he got adopted? Maybe they have it…

 
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Jls3824 (message)  37 posts, Newbee

If it becomes really difficult to get the birth certificate, it might be easier getting legally married in a different state that does not require residency and birth certificate. Your marriage will still be legal in Michigan because you are legally married in a different state. It does not affect your wedding plan in Michigan. Just a thought.

 
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almostmrsc (message)  232 posts, Helper bee

As crazy as it sounds, call your US Senator’s office… they are equipped and handle this sort of thing all the time. Trust me… I work in a local government office and we routinely send passport issues over to them.

go to http://www.senate.gov/ and near the top, select your state and call whomever you like. Good Luck!!

 
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pinkpaperbride
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pinkpaperbride (message)  669 posts, Busy bee

Maybe you can get legally married in another state if all else fails…Texas doesn’t require a birth certificate, just a driver’s license, and I’m sure there are other states like that.

 
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Miss Bunting
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Miss Bunting (message)  458 posts, Helper bee

@Jls3824: That’s a great way to make the best of the situation. We could even turn it into a second mini honeymoon so it’s more of a vacation than a forced chore.
@almostmrsc: Thanks for that!!

 
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Bee Marie

For the passport, you say you needed to provide 2 documents (of which 1 is missing). What are the documents? I assume one document you need is a naturalization certificate/certificate of citizenship.

I was adopted from Korea and went through the naturalization process when I was 7-8. In situations where I need a birth certificate, I’ve shown my naturalization certificate — I absolutely had to do this for my passport.

How was your FI able to get a driver’s license (I used my naturalization paper) or a SSN (you need proof of citizenship/immigration status)?

Did your FI actually get his US citizenship? Living in the US a long time doesn’t make one a citizen, nor does being adopted by American parents (this was changed in 2000)

 
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amyellabella (message)  173 posts, Blushing bee

It sounds like people have given you some great advice and I love the idea of running across a state line to get legally married if you had to! Also calling your congresspeople sounds like a great idea, they (more likely their staff) exist to help you so take advantage of it. You have a wonderful attitude about it all though!!

We’re getting married in Estonia, my fh is British and I’m American so we’re encountering a lot of paperwork and red tape nightmarishness. It’s all so complicated, for instance, we have to have all our documentation translated and then notarised by our respective embassies before we can apply to get a license, then once we get married we’ll have to do it again but this time translating the marriage certificate to English and then having our embassies make our marriage legal in the US and the UK. I’m sure it will all work out eventually, just wanted you to know I feel your pain! Good luck and can’t wait to hear how you resolve this!

 
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amorette

Miss Bunting– (((((((HUGS!!!!!!!)))))))))))))))
Hang in there, I almost had a similar issue and I was going to scream out “LIES” as well, but my friend reminded me that our very laid-back officiant would perform the ceremony as planned, it would indeed be real, and then we would go get the license and he would sign it for that date. I don’t know if that’s a good (er, legal) solution, and we didn’t have to do it, but a thought?
On the otherhand, I’m having TWO ceremonies (one still to come) so I say go get married in a non-birth certificate state and then as planned. Two ceremonies = two anniversaries = two honeymoons = two opportunities for gifts!! :-)
Hang in there!!!!

 
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Mrs. Bunting, Grand Rapids, MI Age and Occupation: 24, freelance illustrator & print production Fiance's Age and Occupation: 24, graduate of history Engagement Date: December 3, 2009 Wedding Date: June 2011 Venue: Spring Grove Park & St. George Banquet Center About Me: I am a freelance illustrator and designer with a love of nature and a taste for adventure. Textures and color fuel my world, along with apple cider and noodles. I'll try anything once, especially if it involves heights or food. I've hiked the Grand Canyon, gone sky diving, cuddled a baby wolf, and now my latest venture consists of designing and planning a large wedding involving color, DIY details, love, and marrying my best friend.

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