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Mrs. Ostrich, San Francisco/Hawaii Age and Occupation: 30, Fashion Buyer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 38, Copywriter Engagement Date: October 4, 2009 Wedding Date: April 2011 Venue: Sweet ceremony by the sea and sunset celebration on the North Shore of Hawaii About Me: Born in the city of angels and residing in the city by the bay, I’m a fearless fashion buyer by day, a passionate blog author by night and a dreamy bride-to-be in between. I thank my lucky stars to live in such a stunning city that gives me gifts like organic honey lavender ice cream, movie nights in the park, tucked away beaches, legendary record stores, '80s dance parties, awesome sports teams, stellar flea markets, and vintage bookshops. Oh, and I love to dance! We always find every excuse to escape to the beach, and decided a little seaside wedding in Hawaii is our idea of bliss. Full of our favorite people, music, food and sparkly lights, this is one sunset celebration we will always remember.
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Mrs. Interdependent

June 1st, 2011 @ 6:31 pm by Mrs. Ostrich

“I love you not because of who you are, but because of who I am when I am with you.” - Roy Croft

I know this girl.

In our 20s, she was this amazing force to be reckoned with. Endlessly curious and up for anything, my moments with her were some of my brightest, exhilarating and most hilarious in my so-called life. You know those people that literally sparkle? Like, when they walk in a room you feel like a brighter, sunnier version of yourself? Yep, she was one of them.

One day, along the way, we met these boys who stole our hearts.

At first, our group of fun just doubled in size. We painted our town every color every weekend and I was so thrilled that she found this guy who had her same insatiable zest for life. Her equal. And he adored her to pieces.

Then as the years passed, our relationships strengthened and we grew a little older, we started to make some grown up decisions. We moved in with our men and folded our lives together.

And that made all the difference.

I struggled in the beginning to find that balance between couple time and friend/family/solo time.

I learned the ways of respecting and considering your partner. Some of these love lessons? Call when you’re late, say thank you even for the smallest things, let them know (not at the eleventh hour) when you have plans, ask them how their day was and encourage time with their friends (even if it’s with those craaaazy dudes that drink too much tequila). And slowly but surely, I started to understood the challenging meanings of trust, compromise, support…and balance. And I tried, every day, to live a great life as a supportive partner, loving daughter/sister, thoughtful friend and ambitious individual. I became a student of Interdependence. And finding that balance is like a different NY Times crossword every week and gets increasingly harder as we build our home and have a family. But it is something that is important to both of us so we keep at it, every day.

And my friend? She was also navigating the windy roads of coupledom and grown up life….but the social outings became few and far between. Our weekly conversations turned to monthly or longer. They were together 99% of the time. And when they were apart, she called him constantly. She deferred to him for many decisions. She adapted to his way of life. And over time, that sparkle began to fade and a cloud of worry took its place. He was a far cry from a bully, but fiercely protected her. But she loved him with her whole heart. And he still adored her to pieces. And a few years ago, they got married.

It breaks my heart every time I see her or talk to her because I want to shake her and tell her so many things. I want to tell her that differences are a good thing. That she is smart and amazing and her voice is as meaningful as his. That love is important but one person does not define you as an individual. That it isn’t about giving in but about being inspired to be a better version of yourself, every day. And that he fell in love with that sparkly and colorful girl and will still love her today.

But sometimes, when a person is so in love, they can be blind to the changes and tune out the voices of concern. The marriage books say, “OH HELL NO, Codependency is bad, bad, bad.” But for some of these couples, if they believe that they’re happy, is it our right to burst their bubble? I love this girl like my sister and want her to be happy and I want her to be her self, not his. But for now, {part of} the concern has been shared and she assured me that they are doing “great.”

So I smiled, nodded, said, “I miss you,” and hung up the phone.

And I remembered those days with that bright and shiny girl I met so many years ago.

My fellow bees, if you have a similar experience, I’d love to hear your stories and thoughts.

Thanks for listening, hive. You’re wonderful.

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NowDontLetsBeSilly
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NowDontLetsBeSilly (message)  230 posts, Helper bee

I personally worry about becoming that girl a lot. It’s scary becoming a unit instead of just an individual, and I’ve lost friends who were not supportive of the fact that I am not just an individual, but also am part of a couple too. I really appreciate this post, and you really expressed the changes a relationship causes to some people well, and I know I’m going to try to keep in mind this balancing act more often.

 
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xtatic1
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xtatic1 (message)  778 posts, Busy bee

I have a friend who is eerily similar. She was fun and vivacious and a firecracker to be around. The she got married and things were ok at first. Then came baby #1 and the mister started being more immature while she had to grow and be a mom alone. Now that baby #2 has come along it just seems to get worse. I wish she would stand up for herself and tell him to grow up or it’s over but it is hard when you have become so dependent on someone, especially with kids.

 
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Mrs. French Toast (message)  288 posts, Helper bee

I have a childhood close close close friend like that. But then she met her other half and ever since then, they cannot do things alone. Every where they go, they go together. Everything they do, they do together. It’s not to say that’s a bad thing, but she can’t make up her mind without asking for his opinion first (and vice versa). That’s why Mr. FT and I try to carve out time to do things alone with our own friends.

 
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rtnofthemack
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rtnofthemack (message)  30 posts, Newbee

I have a friend like that (one of my bridesmaids) and I like her boyfriend and all but sometimes, just sometimes it would be nice to do something with JUST HER and not both of them all the time. My husband travels a lot and I hate feeling like a third wheel while he is gone. Plus, she used to get along just fine on her own. Better than fine actually and now the two of them are a package deal. Can’t have one without the other. He insisted on staying at the hotle with us the night of my Bachelorette party and got mad at her when she wasnt back by midnight. He thought he’d be able to tag along but I put my foot down and said NO! He got over it but yeah, it’s obnoxious and sometimes I just want my friend and some girl time :)

 
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I am so happy to say that I knew my current boyfriend was the one when I could be with him and still be me. In fact, he encouraged it. He said that I was who he fell in love with and he never wanted the girl to go away. I cherish him for this. And I know it will work because of this.

 
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I think that all relationships are a challenge to navigate at time, whether it is your brother, your friend, or your significant other. I know the girl you describe. In fact, i have more girlfriends who have transformed into this than ones who have maintained their inner self through it all.

I am getting married in april, and one of my bridesmaids (and oldest friend) is miffed that she is not the maid of honor. Knowing people for so long has it pit falls. I know that she is unreliable, unable to speak up, and slighly self involved. Her boyfriend of 6 years keeps telling her “i just don’t want to marry you yet” and she finds emails he sends to his ex girl lying about his profession, education, and current relationship. How on earth do you tell someone to stop making excuses, or even just tell them that you are concerned?

my only hope for the friends we have like this are to give it time, and things will hopefully work out however is best for them. And for people like us, with friends like that, i hope that despite all the nonsense, we can find a way to maintain the hope, respect, and excitement we had with them before things got more complicated. If i look at my mother, and how she told me how her friendships evolved through college, marriage, and children, the one thing I can rest assured to know is our true friends will always be present eventually, and sometimes it just requires some time.

thanks for sharing your story!

 
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Mrs. Elephant
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Mrs. Elephant (message)  6,182 posts, Bee Keeper

It really stinks because it sounds like you’re sort of losing a friend. I think that you’re doing the right thing, letting her know your concerns and that you’re there for her. I hope that things work out!

 
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MrsSl82be
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MrsSl82be (message)  7,970 posts, Bee Keeper

Unfortunately, a lot of my frienships have faded due to the fact that we are in relationships now, and just grown up. i very rarely do anything socially fun without my husband, and I am honestly trying to rekindle those friendships. Its really hard, when you are so busy with little down time, and you want to spend that time with your spouse :/

 
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misslene (message)  203 posts, Helper bee

@MrsSl82be: I totally get where you are coming from. My husband and I work opposite shifts (me on first, him on second), so literally the only time we have to spend together is on weekends. I don’t want to let friendships fade, but I also don’t want to sacrifice what little time I have available to spend with my husband. It is hard!

 
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Mrs. Ostrich (message)  1,948 posts, Buzzing bee

@MrsSl82be: @misslene: I was in the same pickle as you ladies when we first moved in together and it took time for me to figure out that i could be creative with how i invested quality time with my friends, family and myself…without using every weekend.

weekday coffee/wine dates, taking dance/yoga/pilates classes in the weekday evenings or early breakfast dates on the weekend. Mr. O and I still spend most of our weekends together (with a group of our friends and a date thrown in between) , use the midweek to catch up with friends and a couple sundays to catch up with family or for our self. and we discovered a quality hour with a good friend can be wonderful and rejuvenating.

:)

 
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Miss Pony (message)  4,171 posts, Honey bee

This is something I worry about in my life. I think it’s great to share interests with your partner, but maintaining your personal relationships and interests is just as important. My parents were very codependent and spent most of their time together, which has made transitioning back into single life that much more difficult for my dad. Not saying that this will happen with your friend, because it’s just my perspective, but I do think it’s something to consider when balancing life choices.

 
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anna4041
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anna4041 (message)  226 posts, Helper bee

In the first part of my relationship, I am pretty sure I did turn into this girl. I never had any close friends to start with, so I made new friends. I slowly started to rely on my boyfriend (now fiance) for every opinion. Now that he travels for work, I found I can be myself again and re-realized that I am pretty independent. I think what I always did was I was too afraid to fix things myself because they would never be good enough. Now my outlook is, my way is better than no way! Woo!

 
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Miss Prairie Dog (message)  400 posts, Helper bee

i said to pdog the night before our wedding: “wait. you know that even after we’re married, i’m going to travel with my friends without you?” he laughed and said: “i hope so…because i’m doin’ things without YOU.” hahaha

 
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HoneyBear
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HoneyBear (message)  3,486 posts, Sugar bee

It’s crazy, but I think everyone goes through a point in life where they see their friend with someone that they know (or at least think) isn’t right for them.

My best friend married a man who is super controlling and keeps her away from family and friends, but she is so in love with him that no matter what I say or hint at, she doesn’t get it.

He gets to go away and have “man weekends” but she is never allowed to come spend the weekend with me to do wedding stuff.

Like you said, sometimes you just want to shake them!! Tell them to wake up!!! But what can you really do?

 
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Dsquared (message)  543 posts, Busy bee

It’s really hard to assess the situation. On the one hand I could understand if she was in a truly unhealthy relationship with an OVERprotective guy who made her into an unhappy individual. On the other hand, what if her changing is for the better for herself? What if it makes her happier, healthier and a better person? I don’t know but I see it both ways.

 
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mebless
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mebless (message)  512 posts, Busy bee

I am dealing with a similar issue with one of my best friends right now. We used to have soooo much fun whenever we were together. We’d laugh and laugh until our stomachs hurt and just have a blast whenever we were together. When she started dating, we’ll call him Bob, she was constantly on the phone. Like every waking moment. They were doing long distance at first and everything was new so I wrote it off, but when we vacationed together and literally she didn’t want to do anything but be on the phone and get back to her “normal talk schedule” I knew I was starting to lose her. I know people change and dreams change as we get older, but she also abandoned her dreams and goals for her life and career to move across the country. She is altering her life to fit with his and it’s not a two way streak. What scares me or shocks me the most is the amount of influence he has over her. The fiercely independent, fun loving, bubbly, goal oriented girl that was my best friend is slowly turning into something else and it breaks my heart. I understand that change is inevitable, but at what cost?

 
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Good for you Mrs. O for keeping that balance! There is reason to believe that I am kind of “that girl”. I too, was the girl that was always up for a good time and the life of any party. My group of friends and I could have sworn we owned the world. Then we all met guys. Then one friend had serious mental health issues and we didn’t know what to do. Long story short, we all fell apart. We have tried to put the pieces back together, but it just doesn’t feel right anymore. So I am the girl who is always with her husband and his friends since I really don’t have that network anymore. I wish I had friends who I could go out with! But it’s hard with working, keeping a house, family stuff… it’s tricky!

 
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TheFutureMcBride
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TheFutureMcBride (message)  4,479 posts, Honey bee

Thanks for reminding me that I still need to be me and not totally become just part of him. Also, I lost a friend to this and it still breaks my heart.

 
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Ryna
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Ryna (message)  4,207 posts, Honey bee

I’m kinda the exact opposite here… I was the wallflower at the parties my FI would have and wasn’t the out-going type until he pulled me out of my shell… I think he used a crowbar and some dynamite…. ;)

It’s not easy keeping a balance between friends, family, and your SO. I try to encourage him to spend time, alone, with his guy friends but I also want him home at a decent hour! LOL! Me, I don’t have a lot of girl friends and the two I DO hang out with, one has two girls of her own and the other hangs on to her bf like glue. (super or gorilla glued to him….)

It’s easy to fall into the “be what they want me to be” hole, but I’m too stubborn for that (so is my FI) and neither of us wants the other to change.

 
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kcroxyoursox

My husband and I are from cities about four hours away from each other. We met at school on the other side of the state, and then when we graduated (and got engaged a few weeks later) I followed him to his city, mostly because he had a job waiting for him and I did not.

It’s weird because while I yearn for that close group of girlfriends to do silly, girly things with, all of the people that I know here are because my husband introduced them to me. It would be weird to say “I want to hang out with our friends, but without you.”

 
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Mrs. Ostrich, San Francisco/Hawaii Age and Occupation: 30, Fashion Buyer Fiance's Age and Occupation: 38, Copywriter Engagement Date: October 4, 2009 Wedding Date: April 2011 Venue: Sweet ceremony by the sea and sunset celebration on the North Shore of Hawaii About Me: Born in the city of angels and residing in the city by the bay, I’m a fearless fashion buyer by day, a passionate blog author by night and a dreamy bride-to-be in between. I thank my lucky stars to live in such a stunning city that gives me gifts like organic honey lavender ice cream, movie nights in the park, tucked away beaches, legendary record stores, '80s dance parties, awesome sports teams, stellar flea markets, and vintage bookshops. Oh, and I love to dance! We always find every excuse to escape to the beach, and decided a little seaside wedding in Hawaii is our idea of bliss. Full of our favorite people, music, food and sparkly lights, this is one sunset celebration we will always remember.

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