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Mrs. Candy Apple, Princeton Junction, NJ/ Seattle, WA Age and Occupation: 26, Project Editor Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Attorney Engagement Date: May 9, 2010 Wedding Date: August 2011 Venue: St. Joseph's Parish, Seattle Tennis Club About Me: I am a Pacific Northwesterner, born and bred. I have lived in many cities---Santa Clara, Durham (England); Florence; Boston; Princeton Junction---but my heart will always be nestled up near the Cascades and Olympics, which is why we are holding our wedding there. I am a bookworm and a History nerd: I love that my life consists of books, books, and more books, since I work in Publishing! Recently, all waking time not consumed by work and my daily commute has been overtaken by wedding planning. Well, that, and watching Premier-League soccer. There is nothing I love more than a good Tana French mystery, traveling to new places, Anthropologie shopping sprees, Iittala dishware, Kate Spade shoes, impeccable typefaces (think: Archer), and a nice English ale (hellooo, Old Speckled Hen!). Oh, and did I mention my obsession with wedding blogs? Yeah, there’s that too. Join Mr. Candy Apple and me as we prep for our wedding, and, more importantly, our marriage!
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The Name Change Game

June 9th, 2011 @ 10:37 am by Mrs. Candy Apple

First, I wanted to start this post by saying that we women (okay, and I suppose men too) need to give ourselves a big, ol’ pat on the back, and we need to raise a glass of something to the women who came before us. Why? Well, because we are at the point (at least in America) where there actually are name change debates, discussions, questions, thoughts, concerns, considerations. 100 years ago, it would have been very rare for an American woman to keep her last name after she was married, and I am incredibly appreciative that it is socially acceptable now for me to either keep my last name or take the last name of Mr. Candy Apple. Or, for him to take mine. Or, for us to merge our names via hyphen. Or, for us to form a completely new last name. There are so many options! It makes my feminist self leap with joy and happiness, and I mean that from the bottom of my heart. I am so glad I live in a time when we are making such big strides. (And yes, I say strides. Because I don’t think we’re actually there yet. But, we don’t need to get into that right now.) I don’t want to make this a post about feminism (what it is, etc. etc.)—I merely want to state my thoughts and feelings on the issue.

Anyway, yes, the Name Change Game (aka NCG). You know the one—lots of bees have hashed this out before their weddings. I know that for many people this is a touchy subject, causing large amounts of stress, heartbreak, annoyance, grief. I am sure it can also be somewhat of a make-or-break issue in relationships.

To me, the whole NCG mainly boils down to one issue.

Yes, I realize there are many things in play when considering the NCG, but for me, it comes down to those words of the wise Jean Valjean:

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Yes - for some reason, the whole NCG always, always conjures up the lyrics to one of my fave songs from Les Misérables (Let’s be honest. They’re ALL my fave songs.) Particularly this part:

Who am I?

Can I conceal myself for evermore?

Pretend I’m not the man I was before?

And must my name until I die

Be no more than an alibi?

Must I lie?

{Who Am I? from Les Miserables}

Ahh, so good. Okay, now that I’ve gotten that song stuck in your head, let’s move on, shall we?

When I was younger and just discovering what it means to be a feminist, I was convinced that I would keep my last name when I got married. Why the hell should I give up that piece of me, something that has been a part of me for my entire life, for a man? Something that has gone on the backs of mountains of sports jerseys and sweatshirts, something that has been used on countless documents, something that has been signed millions of times. Something that is so integral to my life, and my identity. Why should that be thrown away for some guy? If I take his last name, it will be like I am giving up a part of myself, will it not? And why should I ever sacrifice myself, as a woman, for a man? That is what people did back in the day when they bound their feet and wore whale-bone corsets. I don’t want to feel like my name is a lie for the rest of my life, and I don’t want to revert to old-fashioned habits that perpetuate the ideas of a woman as a man’s property.

Over time, though, I have come to realize that feminism isn’t necessarily about asserting your needs and wants, and eschewing all tradition. In fact, to me, feminism is consciously making these choices for ourselves. Because, well, we now have these choices. We can make these decisions ourselves!

I still do think changing my name is like giving up a part of myself. But, isn’t that part of what marriage is about? Two becoming one? Giving of yourself completely to the other person? I realize this doesn’t mean “you lose all of your identity when you get married.” However, I do think it means that, from that day forward, the couple is bound in a way that you weren’t before, in a new and sacred union.

Also, let’s be frank—my last name is one of the most common last names in America. Mr. CA’s last name is another common last name. It will be like I am exchanging “Johnson” for “Brown.” Although I am attached to my last name (I mean, duh, I’ve been saying “Hi, I’m Miss Candy Apple” my entire life), my first and middle names are the gifts that I really cherish from my parents. They are so unique, and such a part of me and my identity, that replacing one generic last name for another hopefully won’t be too big of an issue. I am carrying over two names into this marriage, and I love those two names. And that is enough for me. If I had a more unique last name, I probably would make more of a stand on this issue.

Another thing? I want to have the same name as my children, and I want us to be seen as a family unit. It sounds sappy, but I want us to be known as “the Apple clan.” Yes, I realize Mr. CA could take my name, or we could hyphenate our names. Mr. CA is fairly traditional, though, and has stronger opinions on the NCG than I do. He wanted to keep his last name, and hinted that he would like me to take his name. He of course would never, ever demand that I take his name, but I know that it would mean a lot to him if I did. I suppose in theory I would like to keep my name, simply because I am so used to it being what it is, but not if it means having a different name than my children, or Mr. CA.

Lastly, I do not work in a field where it would be an issue to change my name (for example, I know many people with Ph.D.’s, and law and medical degrees frequently do not want to change their names). Just wanted to throw that out there.

So, I will be taking Mr. CA’s last name after we get married.

In considering all of the above factors (and many more), this seems like the best decision for me, and for us as a family. Honestly, it was not as big of a soul-searching issue as I thought it would be. I didn’t cry about it, I haven’t freaked out over an identity crisis. I simply asked myself: Who am I? Will that change if I change my last name? How will I feel introducing myself as Mrs. Apple? Do I feel like I am being subservient to Mr. CA in changing my name? All responses and emotions and thoughts pointed to changing my last name. And I am at peace with this decision.

(Although we’ll see once I actually have to legally change my name on everything!)

Do I feel like a bad feminist for taking Mr. CA’s name? A little, which is totally ridiculous! I shouldn’t, because I am making this choice for myself. It IS my name, after all! So it is my decision.

I realize that the NCG is so difficult for many people, and can be confusing, and emotionally-charged. Let it be; it’s a big deal! It is your name! The answer doesn’t have to come to you immediately. Just make sure you are thinking everything through, discussing things with your partner, and not simply going with the flow because it is how things are traditionally done. Do what is right for you.

Did your ideas and thoughts about the Name Change Game shift over time?

Are you changing/ did you change your last name? If so, how are you coping/ dealing with the change? Was the process lengthy and difficult? (I’m scared of all the paperwork!)

If you aren’t going to/ didn’t change your last name, how did your spouse feel about that? Did you feel somewhat ambivalent about the whole thing process?

Did your spouse change his last name? Did you hyphenate? Create totally new last names? I want to hear about it!

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PitBulLover
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PitBulLover (message)  8,322 posts, Bee Keeper

Great post Miss CA! This was exactly my thought process when changing my last name. 9+ months later and it’s starting to feel normal. And I still have my first and middle name that I love!

 
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Lida
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Lida (message)  603 posts, Busy bee

I totally agree with you that feminism is not there yet, and here’s why: because you feel even a tiny bit of guilt for making your choice. When we’re “there”, no one should be judged for either changing names or not changing names!

Do what works for you and your new family. That’s all that matters.

 
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mrsbowieii
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mrsbowieii (message)  693 posts, Busy bee

I am taking my mister’s last name but I will making my current last name apart of my middle name.

 
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Honeycake
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Honeycake (message)  7 posts, Newbee

I am a staunch feminist and I have one of those professions that make changing my last name a pain in both the neck and wallet. Nevertheless, I am going to take my fiance’s name. I have one of those “unique” last names that no one can pronounce or spell, so I feel that I’m trading up to my fiance’s run-of-the-mill last name.

But, to avoid the professional hassle, I’m just going to tack his last name onto my own so I don’t actually have to change my name professionally. I’m just going to have two last names. So instead of “Jane Jones”, I will be “Jane Jones Smith”. What’s more feminist than having it all!

 
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Miss Cannon (message)  457 posts, Helper bee

Any mention of Les Miz leaves me thinking “246-oh-ooooooooooone” all day, so thanks for that!

And I don’t think it’s makes you a bad feminist- the point of feminism is to give us a choice, and the choice that is made isn’t inherently good or bad. You thought it out and made a rational decision in your best interest. That’s perfectly feminist!

I am changing my name, too. Mr. Cannon was cool with my decision either way, but I think he’s happy that I’m taking it. I’m not that attached to my current last name. Honestly, I don’t have any important work published to my old name or anything, and the world is exceedingly informal so my last name barely gets used anyway. I don’t think I even know the last name of most of my co-workers.

I think the only thing that really weirds me out about it is that Mrs. Cannon makes me think of my FMIL, not me! That will take a little change in thinking.

 
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I’m curious as to how much vanity goes into the decision of changing a last name. Like, if you didn’t like your fiance’s last name (Weiner, anyone?), would you be just as committed to taking his last name after marriage? Or would the prospect of a “better” last name make you more inclined to take your husband’s last name? And by “better” that can mean anything from a famous last name or one that’s just easier to spell.

I have a few friends who kept their maiden names and sometimes try to make a feminist argument about their decision. But I know they kept their madien names at least partly because they didn’t like their new S.O’s last name (for one girl, her married initials would have spelled out WTF)

 
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My Mr. and I have been talking about this. I’ll be taking his last name but we’re debating how to best do this. His family is from mexico where the wife keeps her last name and just tacks on de (husbands last name). Then our childred would have a double last name of his last name and mine. So we would all be linked as a family. The only issue here is that we’re not planning on living in Mexico and I’m white as snow, so not mexican. It’s an on going debate but one way or another I’m taking his last name and looking forward to it.

 
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TheFutureMcBride
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TheFutureMcBride (message)  4,484 posts, Honey bee

Name change was so hard for me. I thought I’d always do it willingly and happily, but it was so hard. My husband didn’t care one way or the other, so I left it for almost a year and finally changed it, but I haven’t changed everything because there’s a lot to do.

 
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haelmai
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haelmai (message)  234 posts, Helper bee

I have a year and a half to make up my mind, so we’ll see but I just don’t like how my first and middle names sound with his last name. And since we’re not having children, I don’t see that part as an issue for us. And he really doesn’t care whether I take his name or not, so I think I’m probably gonna just keep mine. So my reasons are for vanity, but I’m okay with that.

 
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Gemstone (message)  5,681 posts, Bee Keeper

I will change my name, but I am sad over it. I love my name. Other people love my name so much that they call me “GemstoneLastname” instead of just Gemstone. Also, I’m a professional writer, so I’m sad about losing my bylines. But those things, at the end of the day, are not nearly as important to me as being one with my husband. Even though it will be hard, it’s the right choice for me.

 
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Charcole2011 (message)  298 posts, Helper bee

I’m changing for similar reasons - mainly the kids/family issue. My mom originally didn’t change her name (her maiden name was very distinctively Italian and her father was the last man of the family and had no sons, so when she and her sister changed, the name died), and it was always a little awkward/annoying as a kid to have to explain things (not that it should be anyone’s business, but kids/teachers/etc. would inevitable be confused and ask). Eventually, my mom decided she didn’t like having a different name than all of us, so she changed it about 20 years after getting married! I think my experience as a kid made it sort of a no-brainer for me - but I do wonder how I will feel when it’s time to actually go through with it! I am moving my last name to my middle because I’m more attached to it than my middle name (which is sort of generic), so I hope that will help me feel like I’m not losing my identity… Also, I love FI’s last name, so that helps (@BBL: I think you’re totally right that what the FI’s name is can play a role!)

 
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Miss Cinnamon Bun
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Miss Cinnamon Bun (message)  1,100 posts, Bumble bee

Cinnamon Buns has one of the top 3 last names, and mine is rarely found on people I’m not related to. I feel a little bad, like I’m dissing his last name and saying ‘it’s too common’ but I’m attached to my unique name, and my last name describes me. He is totally fine with me not wanting to change it, which is awesome.

 
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DesireeAnne
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DesireeAnne (message)  3,109 posts, Sugar bee

I’m taking J’s name because I’m very old-fashioned. I never knew that name changing was such a hot topic until more recently. I guess I live in a bubble. I can understand reasons as to why women don’t want to change their name, but as I stated above, I’m old-fashioned.

Trust me, I LOVE my current last name. I am the last “T” in the immediate family. It’s crossed my mind that I never, ever want to change it. I even thought about using it as my middle name. It IS part of who I am, but to me, it won’t be the end of the world when I am finally able to drop it.

I’m very excited to start my new life with J and as an “H”. It’ll be a new beginning. A new life.

 
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stephbonthego
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stephbonthego (message)  687 posts, Busy bee

I am not a feminist by any means; quite the opposite but I feel strongly that the NCG is a very personal, individual decision that each bride (and groom!) must make. I do not judge the hows or whys.

Mr. D has a very ethnic, unique name and although, yes it will be odd to no longer be Ms. B I look forward to taking his name.

Great thread!!

 
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zippitydoodah
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zippitydoodah (message)  155 posts, Blushing bee

two-four-six-oh-oooooonnnneee!!!

I hate my last name and love my fiance’s, plus I want the same last name as my kids… but I do admit once I got engaged and realized that I’m on a final countdown of being angela ____ , I got way more sad then I thought I would! Luckily I have a year to get used to it still.

 
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Mrs. Tartlet
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Mrs. Tartlet (message)  3,207 posts, Sugar bee

I just started the process of hyphenating my last name (going to the SS office this afternoon!), and thus far the paperwork doesn’t seem to be *too* bad. We’ll see whether it gets exponentially more complicated as I head to the DMV, banks, etc.!

 
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Miss Marmalade (message)  191 posts, Blushing bee

Les Mis–more like les YES! I love that song, and yes it’s in my head now. Still figuring out the name change “thing,” I have a lot of the same reasons as you for changing it. ARGH.

 
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MuddyInsignia (message)  48 posts, Newbee

I have a rather unfortunate last (maiden) name… think Butts. It is a name every 2nd grader in my family gets to live with some oh too common of jokes. My dad is from a big family with lots of boys, but my mother was the only child to reproduce (parents are now divorced). When my brother and sister in law were married 2 years ago, she refused to take our family’s name. Her last name meant a lot to her and my father was not at all welcoming to her joining the family. About a year and a half into the marriage, they decided that it meant enough to them to have the same last name, that they both changed their last names to my mother’s maiden name. I thought it was a wonderful solution for them both.

For me, I have been waiting to change my last name since that first 2nd grade joke. So on September 3rd (wedding day), I will happily, joyfully take my fiance’s last name

 
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@BBL: I will admit that vanity is playing a major role in my decision to change it. I’m not attached to my current last name, which is so common it’s basically the “Acme” of last names in the U.S. Although I’ll soon have to spell both my first and last names instead of just my first, I’ll have a French last name to match my French first name, and I like that. But I’m moving my last name to the middle for professional reasons.

 
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P.S. To those who say “I’m not a feminist” — you probably are without even realizing it. Just means you believe in the equal worth of all humans, regardless of gender. Nothing radical about that!

 
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Mrs. Candy Apple, Princeton Junction, NJ/ Seattle, WA Age and Occupation: 26, Project Editor Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Attorney Engagement Date: May 9, 2010 Wedding Date: August 2011 Venue: St. Joseph's Parish, Seattle Tennis Club About Me: I am a Pacific Northwesterner, born and bred. I have lived in many cities---Santa Clara, Durham (England); Florence; Boston; Princeton Junction---but my heart will always be nestled up near the Cascades and Olympics, which is why we are holding our wedding there. I am a bookworm and a History nerd: I love that my life consists of books, books, and more books, since I work in Publishing! Recently, all waking time not consumed by work and my daily commute has been overtaken by wedding planning. Well, that, and watching Premier-League soccer. There is nothing I love more than a good Tana French mystery, traveling to new places, Anthropologie shopping sprees, Iittala dishware, Kate Spade shoes, impeccable typefaces (think: Archer), and a nice English ale (hellooo, Old Speckled Hen!). Oh, and did I mention my obsession with wedding blogs? Yeah, there’s that too. Join Mr. Candy Apple and me as we prep for our wedding, and, more importantly, our marriage!

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