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Miss Sweet Cream, Philadelphia Age and Occupation: 26, Public Relations Account Manager Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Outside Sales Engagement Date: July 4, 2010 Wedding Date: October 2011 Venue: Our Lady of Grace Catholic Church / Rosebank Winery About Me: Born in the ‘burbs of Philly, it took some time living in the Big Apple to realize that I’m a girl who likes her roots. That’s why the mister and I bought a 1950s house on a charming street not too far from our childhood stompin’ grounds. This could also be the reason why our hometown is the scene where we are planning our super sweet, totally charming, BBQ-for-supper wedding that I never knew I always wanted. I DIE over DIY projects and live for vintage, heartfelt inspiration. I obsess over all things mid-century (from forks to furniture). Love is… cartoons and flea markets, and I am known to whip up a mean banana cream pie. I met the Mr. in grade school and after that boy took me for a spin on the handle bars of his BMX, I knew that things would never be the same again. Besides lovin’ my Mr., I also love to plan, sew and create, and that’s just what I’m doing as I navigate through the details, creating a laid-back day that oozes charm; one that will go down in (at least our) history as the Best. Day. Of all time.
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As a former “women’s studies” buff in college, I love a good blast from the past to see the change and progression of woman—as a wife, single gal, mother, and employee—throughout history. I find it completely fascinating to see the roles of women change, even in the fictional world of television, such as Mama Ingalls, Donna Reed, Mrs. Arnold, Lynette Scavo.

But sometimes it is almost shocking to see how not a lot of things really have changed over time.

A couple months ago Mrs. Flamingo wrote about a 1930s “Marital Rating Scale,” which had me hysterical and immediately forwarding it on to Mr. Sweet Cream. I loved how a Mrs. would get “demerits” for “slow in coming to bed,” “wearing red nail polish,” and “puts her cold feet on husband at night to warm them.” Mr. Sweet’s favorite “merit” for the Mr. on the husband’s chart was “gives wife ample allowance or turns pay check over to her.”

I thought it was worth sharing some other marital rib-ticklers or shockers from days long ago…

A 1955 article in Housekeeping Monthly gives some wonderful tips for the wife. I can’t believe that it says what he has to say is more important and can’t imagine this Mrs. in pearls and heels running around getting a fire ready for her hubby! Thank goodness I wasn’t a wife in those days—I would certainly complain if Mr. Sweet Cream didn’t come home for dinner or stayed out all night long without letting me know. I would be worried!!

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While I would love to be a wife whose priority was her husband and making a mean pineapple upside-down cake, maybe I’m better off as a bride of the 21st century.

Published decades earlier, these 1930s guides to marriage titled “How to be a Good Wife” and “How to be a Good Husband” give some surprisingly wise and modern thoughts:

  • Don’t pose as a weak little thing that cannot go on a journey unless your husband buys your ticket and puts you on the train. Wives who do this got out-of date while Queen Victoria was alive. And a woman who still persists in being femininely frail has few admirers, to-day. Of course, if a wife asks her husband to come and see her off because she enjoys his company, that’s quite another thing.
  • Don’t overlook the fact that the average husband likes being made a fuss of. If you do it honestly and don’t gush about it, there is nothing he won’t do for you. Of course, it has got to be genuine.
  • Don’t forget that very true remark that while face powder may catch a man, baking power is the stuff to hold him.
  • Don’t be one of those wives who demand that their husbands do this or that for them. No man worthy of the name will be “bossed.” On the other hand, don’t be a tame kitten or a doormat, for husbands look down on spineless women. Steer a middle course and your husband will appreciate your wisdom.

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Some great advice in the husband’s guide includes:

  • Don’t be so absorbed in making a living that you have no time to make a life.
  • Do take care not to be led into expenses that you cannot afford in order to keep up appearance. The attempt to do this is only too often accompanied by vulgarity and disastrous consequences.
  • Do take the utmost care always to honour your wife in the presence of children. If they hear you constantly snapping her up or contradicting her, the inevitable result will be that before long they will lose their respect for her and you.

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Tips for the future hubby are practical, fair, and more modern for the partnership of marriage than those of the booming 1950s! / Images via Getting Personal

So it just proves that throughout time—whether Mama Ingalls or on the ladies on Wisteria Lane—wives are always looking for some good advice…or maybe it’s the authors that just feel like giving it.

Either way—

What is the best advice that you have received as a newlywed that you think is worthy of a page in a book your grandkids could look back on? What “wifely” advice are you so happy you received?

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20 Responses to “Wifely Advice: A Thing of the Past?”

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Miss Magic (message)  628 posts, Busy bee

OMG, Mr. Magic gets so PISSED when I squeeze the toothpaste from the top. OK, not really mad…but he’s constantly putting these little toothpaste squeezing devices on my tube of toothpaste. I’m like, “Chillax homey, I’ll get it all out in the end.”

 
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Miss Cannon (message)  457 posts, Helper bee

“You have no right to question him.” Yowza! Glad I wasn’t alive then. I actually haven’t received one bit of advice regarding marriage from anyone. Maybe I just seem like a natural.

 
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totheislnds
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totheislnds (message)  5,361 posts, Bee Keeper

this is a great post! - i had found a post by another bee for the books “dont’s for husbands” and “dont’s for wives” they were written in 1913 - and while some of it is great and still relevant some of it is just hysterical - i have them in the guest bathroom and people comment on them all the time.

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=donts+for+husbands&um=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1280&bih=874&safe=on&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=689212222248526502&sa=X&ei=SVD7TdeNOYWatweBotW8Dg&ved=0CFwQ8gIwAA

 
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cosmo_gmr
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cosmo_gmr (message)  449 posts, Helper bee

OMG, it’s very interesting to compare the advice from the 1930’s and the 1950’s… I guess, if you analyse it a bit, in the 30’s you needed to be tougher because of the depression? Contrary to the abundance of the 50’s… just something I was considering.

Anyway… I did get some advice: “make your points in the best possible way (no yelling) and always use “I feel”… that way men usually can’t argue with you.”
I also remember, from Mona Lisa Smile, Betty’s mom saying a good wife makes the decisions but let’s her husband think he’s making them or something like that.

 
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Miss Pony (message)  4,174 posts, Honey bee

I always find these very interesting and usually quite entertaining. Glad that things have changed, cause some of these make me gag.

 
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ktisthatbees
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ktisthatbees (message)  2,742 posts, Sugar bee

The ” you have no right to question him” part made my eyes bug out of my head. I would NOT have made a very good housewife in the 50’s for sure!

this is a fantastic post! Although I’m glad that things have progressed a bit, that whole, turn off the vacumm and dryer thing is a bunch of bull!

Marriage advice that has worked for us: pick your battles! There are so many little things that annoy me about hubs, but if I was constantly pointing all of them out, that would make me such a nag!! I try to let things go, and so does he.

 
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almostmrsc
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almostmrsc (message)  232 posts, Helper bee

I have a 1940s/1950s cookbook that was my grandmothers (the Women’s Home Companion Cookbook). In addition to the recipes, it gives advice and such things about having your husbands boss over for dinner and things like that. I can’t think of any advice I’ve gotten, but the best I could give is:

Sometimes, people need 5 minutes to decompress when they walk in the door after work. Questions and complaints only make the matters worse. Wait until your spouse has had a chance to use the bathroom and change before you start.

 
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Miss Marmalade (message)  191 posts, Blushing bee

That is sooo interesting! I love the whole face powder vs. baking powder tip. One–I don’t wear makeup unless there’s good reason. And two–I love to bake but the Mr. hates to have sweets in the house and I loove to bake!

 
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MsJeep23
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MsJeep23 (message)  1,375 posts, Bumble bee

Not to be historical and boring, but you can see that from the 1930s to the post-WWII consumerism boom there was a bit of a backslide in women’s rights regarding marital equality. It actually has much to do with the economy and access to new “time-saving” (and responsibility-lessening) technology!
It’s a similar thing when you compare lower- to middle-class families in the 1700s (pre-industrial revolution) and 1800s (post-IR) century America as well. Generally speaking, non-wealthy 18th century women had a broader role in marital and home life than their counterparts 100 years later.
K, sorry for the nerdy interruption…;)

 
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KCheer (message)  370 posts, Helper bee

My favorite marriage advice we got was “Never stop flirting with your husband. Never stop dating your wife.” Somehow this just keeps our sparks going! :)

 
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mrs.ball2b (message)  126 posts, Blushing bee

Even though some of these are soooo old school, if you read between the lines there are some truth to them! This coming of course from a girl who (not-so secrectly) dreams of being a housewife……haha. I’m reading ‘The proper care and feeding of a husband’ by Dr. Laura, although her thought process isn’t the same as most of us, it is a good read and has some great points! ;)

 
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Courtnee (message)  153 posts, Blushing bee

Pick your battles is the best advice. Someone did give us some old fashioned advice that is kind of true though. They said wifes like to receive your attention and husbands like to be respected. I know these can be switched around too but it’s true–most women wish they got more attention and all men want respect (to feel manly or something). So for modern advice–pay attention to each other and respect each other!

 
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Miss Cinnamon Bun (message)  1,100 posts, Bumble bee

Don’t forget that very true remark that while face powder may catch a man, baking power is the stuff to hold him.

Ahahahahha I love that one!

 
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weddingstars2012
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weddingstars2012 (message)  430 posts, Helper bee

OMG that is hilarious! Especially from the first one: “his topics of conversation are more important than yours.” wow. I don’t think so.

 
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stephbonthego
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stephbonthego (message)  687 posts, Busy bee

HA!!!!!!!! “…his topics of conversation are more important than your own.”

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!! hahahhaaaaaa…..ahhha…

 
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Miss Sweet Cream (message)  216 posts, Helper bee

Great advice, ladies!

@almostmrsc - i LOVE vintage cookbooks & that is so cool that it was your grandmoms. I actually just looked it up and have added it to my “vintage cook books that i must have list.” :)

@MsJeep23 - I do think that that was nerdy at all! It was fascinating!! Thanks for your “interruption!” ;)

@Mrs.Ball2b - I am also a girl who (not-so secrectly) dreams of being a housewife!!!

 
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@cosmo_gmr- you are exactly right. After men came back from WWII, they were trying to kick women out of the workforce and put them back in the home. This crap was the result. And in the 30s, when people were starving to death and just scraping by, who would want to have to take care of a wife as well as children?

Ha ha ha. I also got the “warms cold feet on husband” demerit. I also never dress for breakfast and rarely have it prepared for him. Good thing I don’t live in the ’50s!

 
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mightywombat
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mightywombat (message)  3,311 posts, Sugar bee

This was actually entitled “A Word to Husbands,” by Ogden Nash but I find it applies equally. My dad wrote it down in the card he gave us upon our engagement!

To keep your marriage brimming,
With love in the loving cup,
Whenever you’re wrong, admit it;
Whenever you’re right, shut up.

 
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sarah

don’t complain even if he stays out all night?? ok, late i can (kind of) understand, even MAYBE going out to dinner without you (but why?) — but WHERE and WHY would he ever need to spend the night away without telling you? what does that even mean? haha

 
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lawschool bride
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lawschool bride (message)  296 posts, Helper bee

Haha my mom gave me some advice that was 50ish. She told me to always be up before my husband, always have my hair done and makeup on and look good, make him breakfast every morning and make sure the house is clean. FI actually didn’t like it when I told him that haha, he likes when I look natural and being pretty equal when it comes to things.

 

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Miss Sweet Cream, Philadelphia Age and Occupation: 26, Public Relations Account Manager Fiance's Age and Occupation: 26, Outside Sales Engagement Date: July 4, 2010 Wedding Date: October 2011 Venue: Our Lady of Grace Catholic Church / Rosebank Winery About Me: Born in the ‘burbs of Philly, it took some time living in the Big Apple to realize that I’m a girl who likes her roots. That’s why the mister and I bought a 1950s house on a charming street not too far from our childhood stompin’ grounds. This could also be the reason why our hometown is the scene where we are planning our super sweet, totally charming, BBQ-for-supper wedding that I never knew I always wanted. I DIE over DIY projects and live for vintage, heartfelt inspiration. I obsess over all things mid-century (from forks to furniture). Love is… cartoons and flea markets, and I am known to whip up a mean banana cream pie. I met the Mr. in grade school and after that boy took me for a spin on the handle bars of his BMX, I knew that things would never be the same again. Besides lovin’ my Mr., I also love to plan, sew and create, and that’s just what I’m doing as I navigate through the details, creating a laid-back day that oozes charm; one that will go down in (at least our) history as the Best. Day. Of all time.

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