Newer blog post
more in Blog
Older blog post
Newer blog post by Mrs. Mouse
more by Mrs. Mouse (oldest)
Older blog post by Mrs. Mouse
Mrs. Mouse's Picture
Mrs. Mouse, Austin Age and Occupation: 25, Weddingbee Editor/Attorney Fiance's Age and Occupation: 31, Civil Engineer Engagement Date: December 19, 2007 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: Barr Mansion About Me: I just graduated from law school and will be taking the bar, getting married, going on a honeymoon with my guy, and then trying to figure out what I'm going to do with the rest of my life. I was born and raised in a small East Texas town, but I'm no country girl! I'm obsessed with British accents, fantasy (including Harry Potter, of course), and classic rock. My fiance and I consider ourselves both music and beer snobs--but every once in awhile we love to hear a crappy band and drink a cheap brew or two. We're planning an eco-friendly, casual, English garden affair for the end of summer, and we can't wait for it to get here!
About Mrs. Mouse

This is kind of a weird post to write, since some of you know that I blogged extensively about my wedding here on Weddingbee. I also ravenously consumed wedding-related content before (and after) my wedding, and obviously weddings are still a part of my daily life as a Weddingbee editor. But sometimes when I look back at the Dude’s and my (admittedly pretty nontraditional) wedding, I regret how much I bought into the Wedding Industrial Complex.

Your Biannual Angsty Post-Wedding Mouse Post :  wedding austin proposal rings 16

Photo by The Nichols

True, we did a lot of things that didn’t feed the wedding machine—I bought a relatively cheap short dress from an indie designer. Our wedding took place at a local venue that prides itself on being organic and environmentally friendly. I sold, repurposed, or recycled most of the decor I purchased for the wedding. It wasn’t a very wasteful wedding in the grand scheme of things. But it did cost a good bit of money, and sometimes I regret that the money didn’t go to something more practical, such as paying down my law-school debt.

Still, I don’t regret the wedding stuff we splurged on for the most part. It was a magical day for us, and I’m glad we got to spend all the time we did with our lovely friends and family who don’t live close to us.

Your Biannual Angsty Post-Wedding Mouse Post :  wedding austin proposal rings 43

Photo by The Nichols

There is one thing about the whole engagement/marriage thing I absolutely regret, and that is my insane and aggressive desire for an engagement ring. When I look back on how obsessed I was with the Dude proposing to me, I feel ridiculous. Didn’t we/don’t we have a relationship built on mutual respect and equality? Why did I buy into the idea that he had to propose to me? And why—oh why—did I make it clear to him that I really wanted a Tiffany ring? Now, three-and-a-half years after the proposal, I have to admit that my ring is still timeless and beautiful (though at 0.38 carats, a bit smaller than I would have preferred).

Your Biannual Angsty Post-Wedding Mouse Post :  wedding austin proposal rings 35

My Lucida ring from Tiffany & Co.

But I would be just as happy with a ring that cost a third as much. Or even less than that. Or without an e-ring at all, for that matter! Somehow, though, I got sucked into the idea that for whatever reason I deserved a big sparkly expensive rock on my finger. Where did I get this sense of entitlement? And why has it taken me so long to come to terms with the fact that my ring was a big fat waste of money?

Your Biannual Angsty Post-Wedding Mouse Post :  wedding austin proposal rings 24

I’m not a very sentimental person. (OK, yes, I cry during most of Chris Colfer’s scenes on Glee, but I’m not sentimental about most stuff in real life.) So in theory I wouldn’t shed a tear over hawking my ring at some point if we needed the money during a bout of unemployment, or to send a (future, hypothetical) kid to college. The Dude, however, has formed a pretty strong emotional attachment to the fact that this is the ring he bought for me and proposed to me with, so I doubt if he’d be happy to part with it.

Anyway, that’s not really the point. My feelings about the ring and the proposal are tied up in a web of emotions: guilt over the money spent, bewilderment as to why I needed a “proposal” at all, and shame that I ever put pressure on the Dude to buy me something so ridiculously overpriced in the first place.

Did you forgo an engagement ring to save money, or perhaps because you didn’t feel the need for one? Do you have complicated feelings about any aspects of your wedding?

Tags: austin, proposal, rings |
advertisement below
Newer blog post
more in Blog
Older blog post
Newer blog post by Mrs. Mouse
more by Mrs. Mouse (oldest)
Older blog post by Mrs. Mouse

36 Responses to “Your Biannual Angsty Post-Wedding Mouse Post”

1 2 

1.
TheFutureMcBride
Member
TheFutureMcBride (message)  4,484 posts, Honey bee

Thanks for reminding me I don’t need a real engagement ring. My husband proposed with a stunt double, which he wanted to replace with a “real” ring. Instead, we used the money on the wedding. Good thing because he was laid off a week before the wedding. Now, I’m waiting for an anniversary ring at some point, but really, I’m just glad we’re married, happy, and (hopefully) healthy.

 
2.
Guest Icon
Guest
bri

Oh, it feels so good to have someone else state what you are secretly feeling. It’s not my ring that bothers me (although he did buy a more expensive designer ring becuase I pointed it out and that DOES bother me). Rather, it’s that I regret horribly how I behaved prior to the proposal. A lot of pouting and glaring and one really horrific fight where I ruined our otherwise magical anniversary. Why was I so obsessed with getting him to propose. Anyway, all that is just to say thanks for posting something I never feel comfortable talking about.

 
3.
Crown
Member
Crown (message)  548 posts, Busy bee

Mrs. Mouse, I am touched by your candor. As a bride-to-be for the second (and last) time, I know full-well it’s all too easy to get sucked into the big wedding machine. You have confirmed for me that we don’t have to go big to have a wonderful day, and that a lot of the things that society says we’re “supposed to have” are really unnecessary and a waste of money that could be better spent. I speak for myself that I hear you, and I appreciate your message.

 
4.
Member Icon
Member
Melini (message)  1,130 posts, Bumble bee

@TheFutureMcBride…”My husband proposed with a stunt double”…LOL!!! (I don’t have any ring at all.)

 
5.
Guest Icon
Guest
cheesy potates

You have said everything that I feel. I could have written this post. I am planning my wedding now and I still question if I am doing the right thing spending the amount of money we are on one day. We could use that money on a very large down payment for a house. or buy a car. The list goes on. The guilt is always there. I think thats why I try to throw myself into this planning–to justify it!

 
6.
Entangled
Member
Entangled (message)  2,616 posts, Sugar bee

First off, that is one gorgeous ring. I LOVE the design.

One of the things I am happiest with in our engagement so far is the fact that my fiance didn’t propose to me. For awhile I thought he might surprise me, and had alluded to thinking about it, but one day he asked me flat out if I even wanted a proposal. I had to think about it for a few hours, but I eventually told him that I didn’t.

Sometimes this really surprises people… we have no answer when they ask, and we don’t really have a good story about how we met either. But the more I think about it the more I realized that this was the right decision for us. As the WIC pushes me into spending way too much, and my fiance’s more traditional preferences occasionally drive me mad (gendered wedding party… fiiine, traditional vows… NO), I’m really glad we at least did this in a way that symbolized our relationship and not engagements and weddings in general.

 
7.
Member Icon
Member
vintage_stuff (message)  8 posts, Newbee

I think it is the thought that counts. And I think what you will remember from your wedding is how it felt and organic moments you can’t plan for, rather than the things you spent a lot of money on. I like to think of what modern weddings would be without bridal magazines and David Tutera. This perspective of mine I mostly got from the book Altared edited by Colleen Curran, and it really helped me have a ton of fun on my wedding day.

 
8.
Guest Icon
Guest
3rdtimebride

When we first started dating I told my new boyfriend not to ever, under any circumstances, buy me a ring. Of course, at the time I also thought I was never going to get married again being twice divorced already!

But when we started talking about it a few years later (read as: I started to change my stance on the whole 3rd times the charm thing) and decided to give it another go he actually asked if he was *allowed* to buy me a ring. lol

I’m a ring person, I have a small wardrobe of them and like to shop for more when I have the time. So he’s got permission, and he wants to do the proposal thing before we tell people, but I’ve told him no 2-months salary stuff and, really, it doesn’t even have to be a real diamond (I did have other requests, but that’s neither here nor there at the moment).

 
9.
Bee Icon
Bee
Miss Cannon (message)  457 posts, Helper bee

Well, I’ve already told my story regarding no engagement ring, and I believe half of my posts are about how I feel guilty about everything ever, but before we finally decided “eff e-rings, let’s get married” I did put pressure on Mr. Cannon about it. And it is embarrassing. Because, honestly, I don’t even wear jewelry that much. I wear a watch and a ring my grandma gave me when I graduated college every day, and on rare occasions I accessorize, but I’m not a big jewelry person. So for what reason did I want him to spend a truly ridiculous percentage of his income on a piece of jewelry for me? Totally just because “that’s what you do.” And I feel stupid even thinking back on that. And why did I need him to ask me to marry him? We already decided we were getting married.

Anyway, I guess everyone does what makes them happy, and that makes me happy for them. I do still harbor guilt about how much we’re spending on the wedding, but I think getting together a collection of all the folks I’ve loved throughout the years and partying our butts off will make it totally worthwhile.

I’m really glad you raised this discussion Mrs. Mouse. It was a good read.

 
10.
Guest Icon
Guest
curlyjj

Since I felt guilty about the money that my fiance spent on the ring and since I didn’t see why I should be the only one to get something with the engagement, I bought him a top-of-the-line keyboard. (He’s a musician.) So, we both got something from the engagement, although he thinks that his gift is much more useful.

 
11.
Bee Icon
Bee
Mrs. Spaniel (message)  6,792 posts, Bee Keeper

Yeeeeahhhh.. I feel you. I also wanted a big ring (despite not wanting a proposal), and it feels stupid. I was afraid if I didn’t have it, I’d always want it, and it’s not something I could have later (of course it is, but that’s a whole different issue). So now that I have it, I feel like it was silly to get wrapped up in it and we should have spent less. But if I didn’t have it, I might wish I did (and god knows we wouldn’t have saved ALL of the money if we hadn’t bought it). So of all the things I beat myself up over, I’ve just decided that this isn’t going to be one of them. It was a lot of money, but not in the grand scheme of things.

 
12.
Guest Icon
Guest
kristophine

I originally wanted a big diamond. I’m materialistic in a lot of ways, and pretty unabashedly so: if I’m going to spend money on something, I don’t do it half-assed. I get what I really want. And I’ve always loved jewelry. So it seemed natural to go for a beautiful, large diamond.

But luckily for me, that was pretty early on in our relationship. As time passed I started to think more seriously about marriage, and since I identify as a fairly radical feminist, I started thinking about the symbolism involved. I didn’t like it. I felt like the engagement ring as a diamond ring plays into the notion of ownership and male dominance: can he afford me? Can he keep me in the style to which I have become accustomed? It wad abhorrent to me that some women might try to play the whose-rock-is-better game with me. I hated the idea of supporting a patriarchal structure with which I so vehemently disagree.

So when things got more serious I said so. I said I wanted a ring that made it obvious that I knew what should go there, and was deliberately refusing. My man didn’t like that much–he’s more sentimental than I am. So he ended up proposing with a ring that I wouldn’t have chosen, but that’s beautiful and cost fifty bucks. No rock.

I get crap about it from more traditional folks (like my family), but it reflects us. I chose my man because he’s a feminist, too, and it’s important to me that this wedding reflect our values and our beliefs. And the rest of the world can do it their way.

 
13.
Guest Icon
Guest
k8e

it’s so easy once you’re engaged to wonder why you ever pouted for the ring. it’s amazing how quickly we forget how not having it made us feel unappreciated and sometimes lost.

yes - it’s silly now. but those were real emotions. sure, a lot of it is probably due to society going “oh - you’ve been together that long? where’s the ring?”. it was for me anyway. i never tapped my foot on him until my friends started asking me.

it’s a really hard situation to deal with at the time - and then you laugh at yourself later. but it’s so common.

 
14.
Bee Icon
Bee
Miss Pony (message)  4,175 posts, Honey bee

I often feel so guilty about what we are spending on our wedding and what Mr. P spent on my ring (especially given our law debt, oof). But I still find myself thinking that I have to have something because it was in a magazine, or a blog, whatever. I realize (eventually) that the happiness of our wedding day will not be determined by these things, but from all of those things we can’t buy or make or have. As practical as I try to be though, I always remember that weddings are not practical events. So long as we are happy and can financially afford our decisions, I’ve decided to let it go and enjoy the experience.

 
15.
Guest Icon
Guest
Adriana Barrantes

I have an iron ring that cost 5 bucks, we were both in the mall, i saw a ring i liked, he payed for it, went on one knee and proposed. We didnt have money, nothing at all but i cherish the ring, he bought it with what little he had. I wish some times i had a big fat wedding, but what we had was enough and made me so happy :) maybe ill throw a big party when we are 20 years married and then ill buy all the expensive things i help other people buy (im a planner, oh the irony!).

 
16.
oatmealpie
Member
oatmealpie (message)  152 posts, Blushing bee

This article on Slate (http://www.slate.com/id/2167870/) might offer some insight into our collective obsession with engagement rings. It was originally posted in 2007 and rerun just this week.

My fiance got me a big honking ruby ring for a fraction of the cost of a diamond solitaire, and I love it (and him) to pieces.

 
17.
Guest Icon
Guest
lizlemon

Great post! We just got engaged without a ring. We could definitely have afforded one, but I could list 57 reasons that I was opposed (and luckily my husband-to-be agrees). I think it’s fun to have it be our secret that we can choose to share, and I’m definitely happy I opted out of the whose-diamond-is-bigger game. Our friends keep telling us how they admire that we stuck to our principles. We are excited to both wear inexpensive matching wedding bands once we’re married.

On the other hand, I can understand how easy it is to get sucked into the “traditional” (i.e. materialistic/corporate) trappings of a wedding, because they are marketed so beautifully! I try to remind myself that every x-hundred dollars we save is an extra night on a very fancy honeymoon.

 
18.
Guest Icon
Guest
Jenni

I have had many of the same feelings. I certainly don’t need my ring. But when we were considering engagement, I felt like I did.

Here’s where my feelings are now (and I’d encourage you to try to adopt the same acceptance). This relatively modest, beautiful ring that I don’t need but really really wanted not too long ago is a reminder of who I was then. I was an eager, excited girl celebrating a new chapter in my life. Now I’m a mellow, married girl who knows that the ring don’t mean a thing. But it’s our history that makes us who we are. And our histories just happen to include a ring.

 
19.
JenBabe
Member
JenBabe (message)  316 posts, Helper bee

I’m not yet engaged and already find myself worrying whether my e-ring will be laughable compared to that of my BF’s sister-in-law. His brother has been very successful and treats his wife to lavish gifts and the e-ring was no exception. I can’t help but be envious of her sparkles, but then I think to myself “I wouldn’t want BF’s brother as a husband, so why do I want his engagement ring”. My BF loves me the best way he can, and I wouldn’t want it any other way.

Totally off topic. I literally just went from viewing your “Real Wedding” on Project Wedding then popped over to the bee to see whats new and there you were!

 
20.
jmc
Member
jmc (message)  882 posts, Busy bee

@kristophine: This is really interesting, thanks for sharing! I like the juxtaposition of your materialism and feminism.

 
1 2 

Leave a Reply


You can also just...

Newer blog post
more in Blog
Older blog post
Newer blog post by Mrs. Mouse
more by Mrs. Mouse (oldest)
Older blog post by Mrs. Mouse

Visit our sister sites eHarmony
Online Dating
eHarmony Advice
Dating Advice
Project Wedding
Wedding Songs
JustMommies
Pregnancy Calendar

Copyright 2004-2012, Weddingbee.com
 

Find your vendors on Weddingbee

Real reviews from brides in your area!

Favors by Weddingbee

  • Favors by season

Shop Now »

Mrs. Mouse
Mrs. Mouse

Mrs. Mouse, Austin Age and Occupation: 25, Weddingbee Editor/Attorney Fiance's Age and Occupation: 31, Civil Engineer Engagement Date: December 19, 2007 Wedding Date: September 2009 Venue: Barr Mansion About Me: I just graduated from law school and will be taking the bar, getting married, going on a honeymoon with my guy, and then trying to figure out what I'm going to do with the rest of my life. I was born and raised in a small East Texas town, but I'm no country girl! I'm obsessed with British accents, fantasy (including Harry Potter, of course), and classic rock. My fiance and I consider ourselves both music and beer snobs--but every once in awhile we love to hear a crappy band and drink a cheap brew or two. We're planning an eco-friendly, casual, English garden affair for the end of summer, and we can't wait for it to get here!

Boards
Classifieds

Blog Calendar
February 2012
SunMonTueWedThuFriSat
2930311234
567891011
12131415161718
19202122232425
26272829

Weddingbee Bios
by machop93
by IsaiahFountain
by greencl3
by ymaldonado
Wiki
More