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Miss Aardvark, Beaver Dam, WI Age and Occupation: 23, Assistant Product Manager Fiance's Age and Occupation: 31, Business Analyst Engagement Date: May 28th, 2011 Wedding Date: April 2012 Venue: St. Philip Catholic Church/Arcadia Brewing Co. About Me: I am a resourceful lady who love surprises and adventure. At the same time, I value traditions, family and friends. I like to make crafty messes, sometimes, clean them up, and do pretty much anything outdoors. The Mister and I are pretty avid cyclists---we have nine bikes in our home right now...and one motorcycle! We both enjoy eating food we can't pronounce (language doesn't really matter) and going places we've never been. We currently reside in rural Wisconsin, enjoying the cheese and beer it has to offer, and getting outside whenever we can!
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Living in Sin

October 11th, 2011 @ 12:28 pm by Miss Aardvark

This is a post I have been waffling back and forth on for quite some time. I was not sure how, or if, to write it, and even now I am a little nervous about it going up. That being said, I think it is an important part of Mr. Aardvark’s and my story, and it really wouldn’t be fair to you if we left it out. I also understand that this is a very personal subject and that many people have many different opinions on it. I welcome all of your thoughts, but please remember, as I just stated, it was a very personal decision and what’s right for me may not be what’s right for you.

As the title implies, Mr. A and I are living together. We have been living together since the end of our LDR. Initially, this was not the plan. I had a very clear thought in my head that I didn’t want to live together until we were at least engaged and ideally, if we could time it right, married.

Well, hive, as the months of our LDR dragged on and on, that thought began to evolve. You see, more than anything I wanted Mr. Aardvark to come out to Wisconsin, and we even began to discuss him doing so without a job. Now the tricky thing about not having a job is that it is darn near impossible to get approved for a lease. We briefly discussed having me co-sign his lease but ultimately decided that was not worth the extra time, money, or hassle since one of us would inevitably be spending the night at the other’s apartment every night.

After surprisingly little hemming and hawing on my part, I proposed that he just come live with me. The logic of it, and the fact that it would so elegantly solve all of our proximity problems, was too much to resist. I had also been assured that engagement was right around the corner, and this little rearranging of the timeline in my head would be short lived.

So, with that, Mr. A came to Wisconsin, was miraculously able to keep his job, and had the same mailing address as yours truly.

Hive, let me tell you, I was certain we would be excommunicated. (I can be a little paranoid, it’s true.) You see, Mr. Aardvark and I are both Catholic and knew this was (still is) breaking the rules. I know you cannot pick and choose the rules you follow—they are there for a reason and all of that. My parents assured me that it would be fine. Mr. Aardvark even did some extensive research on the matter when he saw how worried I was and assured me that we were still good people, that about 70% of American couples cohabitate before marriage, and that the church was not going to excommunicate us. We were in it for the long haul and for the right reasons. We knew that, God knew (knows) that, and nobody else really mattered. (As a side note, all of our parents and in-laws [to be] were totally on board and supportive, and that helped a ton.) It was also pretty much the most amazing thing ever, to see him every day after so long apart.

A few months went by and Mr. Aardvark found a job here, in Wisconsin. It was a great job and with a bit more job security than his current remote-working situation. However, it was about an hour away from where we currently lived. After many discussions on pros and cons and finding a little town in between our two jobs, he took it. For the third time in four months, we moved. (In case you are trying to keep track, I moved into a new apartment, Mr. A moved to Wisconsin, and then we both moved again.)

It was only a few weeks after this move that he made it officially official. Somehow that alleviated a lot of my guilt. I felt like I could say, “See, God, I told you we weren’t just in it for funzies,” or something maybe less blasphemous than that…

Every once in a while I still get a pang of “you can’t bend the rules to suit your needs” guilt. However, knowing that we are getting closer and closer to the wedding has really helped. One of the things I am most excited for about being married is the freedom from those pangs and knowing that now we are following all of the rules.

Did you over-think (or under-think) your living arrangement? Do you deal with any residual guilt for not following customs? How do you deal with that?

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soyjoy222
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soyjoy222 (message)  3,188 posts, Sugar bee

I didn’t over think it - it was the only way we could be together, due to jobs/location, etc. I also am Catholic, but did not allow that to sway my decision. Sometimes, you have to do what you feel is right for you life. I look at church as a guide toward living life as a good person, not necessarily something that mandates my every decision.

Now that we have been living together and will be married in 7 months, I cant’ imagine it happening any other way. This is a very personal subject for a lot of people, whether you agree to move in or not to move in, in the end, you have to do what is right for you and your relationship.

 
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Gerbera
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Gerbera (message)  4,481 posts, Honey bee

I was less worried about the religious aspect, not religious in the least. But I got plenty of backlash from my family re living with my BF prior to marriage. They got over it. I gotta think in the big scheme of things G better have more important things to worry about than a couple living together before marriage!
With that being said I firmly believe living together prior to marriage is a GOOD thing. It helps with that so call wedding “adjustment” period. You get all those living together pains out of the way pre marriage! Score! :)

 
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Elizabeth

My fiance is Catholic as well. My family is not. When we moved in together, my family was not only supportive… but thought it should happen before we make it “offical.” His parents were not as open minded. After a long talk with his parents… they both seemed at least ok with the idea… but not too happy. He ended up popping the question only 3 months later. His mother was a lot happier after that. lol. But I don’t think she told any of the family or their friends that we were living together yet. lol. I didn’t mind.. whatever made them happy. I personally think the guy upstairs (whoever he is to you) has about a million other things to be worried about. (Thats what I at least tell myself.)

 
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Elolith
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Elolith (message)  669 posts, Busy bee

Mhm. We are not religious, we just moved together, because it was and still is practical. I do understand if there are some hesitations if there is religion involved. I really think it’s great that you are brave enough to share these experiences with us. Thanks!

 
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jmbass (message)  25 posts, Newbee

Thank you for writing this post. I am moving in 4 days to be with my boyfriend of 6.5 years in another country. We aren’t engaged yet, though we have talked about getting married within the next year. My mom is definitely against cohabitation, but not for religious reasons. I don’t really feel like I have any of my family’s support, but I don’t know how much of that is the fact that I’m moving so far away or if they genuinely think living in sin is so awful. Anyway, I’m glad you guys are following your hearts and living together was the right choice for you two. And I’m thrilled that your families were so supportive! That is priceless. Thanks again for sharing your story. :)

 
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fvsoccer (message)  1,298 posts, Bumble bee

We were practically living together before being engaged, although I was still paying rent in another house. I am so glad we did this because it brought to attention many things that we needed to work out before getting married so we were on the same page. I’m not religious at all and neither is my family, but I think they were a little shocked that we had only been dating a year before spending our time “living” together. However, like you said, what is right for us isn’t right for everyone!

 
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guess26grl (message)  112 posts, Blushing bee

I don’t live with my fiance and that was a personal choice/my parent’s didn’t want us to. My fiance and I were LD for 2 years out of our 3 1/2 years together and when he moved back I told him that I didn’t want to live together at least until we got engaged. 1 year after and we still don’t live together but we will be for the first time in 2 weeks which is just under 1 month before our wedding. I think it is going to add to the excitement of getting married but i definitely think to each their own. I’m also Catholic but for me it was more of a personal choice than a religious choice. I’m sure there are plenty of Catholics out there that cohabitate :)

 
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farmergirl (message)  106 posts, Blushing bee

I know how you feel! I am Episcopalian now but was raised Catholic. My fiance and I moved in together about 8 months before we got engaged - same deal as you, we had been LDR for pretty much the entirety of our 2 1/2 year relationship, and we wanted to be in the same place for once! Neither of us make much money and it didn’t make sense financially. I still sometimes think that about how nice it would have been to wait until we got married, but I’m doing my best to not feel guilty these days! I agree with you - I think God would understand, we did it for the right reasons!

 
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FutureMrsMaher
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FutureMrsMaher (message)  849 posts, Busy bee

I love you posted this, I so understand! When we moved in together my FI had taken a back seat to his faith, but after lots of research and consideration I decided to convert. Since then we’re both fully practicing Catholics EXCEPT that we live together. We are in no position to change our circumstances, and with the wedding getting closer I totally feel better and better about it. The fact is, it may not be ideal, but we are doing everything else by the book, if you know what I mean! Cannot wait until I can feel proud that we live together- I’ve often felt a bit of shame when it becomes obvious in church that we live together. Saying that, our priest came to our house and said a home Mass in our living room, so I guess he isn’t too disgusted with us! ;)

 
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Mr.Smithsgirl
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Mr.Smithsgirl (message)  547 posts, Busy bee

Good topic Ms. A. it will work out for the best!

 
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soontobemrs

My fiance just moved in with me this past weekend. Our wedding is in 11 days. We are both religious and didn’t want to move in together before marriage, but this couldn’t be helped. Plus it would only be 2 weeks prior to our marriage and we are pretty much spending that time unpacking him and getting him settled in. I am not worried about it at all!

 
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Meghan

My best friend and MOH was living with her fiance when she got married - and she put down their one address on the registration form for their Catholic Encounter retreat. No one said a word. I think the church is excited enough about people getting married in the faith and caring enough to have a Catholic ceremony that they aren’t necessarily going to use that time to kick people out. Or at least not in our parish :)

 
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zippitydoodah
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zippitydoodah (message)  154 posts, Blushing bee

I don’t feel even a lick of guilt about living together, but my parents both called me every day crying for weeks after I told them. They also won’t enter our house (we’ve lived together for 3.5 years now) and lie to all our relatives and say that we have roommates because they don’t want them to think they’re bad parents! The priest on the other hand didn’t care one bit haha. Obviously I don’t consider myself Catholic any longer, and truthfully I wouldn’t get married without living together first (and I especially believe that now that we have lived together, the first year was a bit rough) but my parents are still pretty upset about it. My fiance’s mom would have been very upset if we didn’t live together first, as she knows first hand what its like to marry someone and then realize she didn’t really know them as well as she thought (which resulted in a divorce pretty quick). I must say though that the Catholic guilt still gets me from time to time with certain things haha… they really ingrain guilt in kids yeesh!

 
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miss.qwerty (message)  895 posts, Busy bee

Thank you for sharing your experience, Miss A. It’s so tricky to balance all the different factors (and the whole coming out of a LDR just makes it that more complicated). I’m glad you guys found something that works for you and that your families are so supportive.

 
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thePYT
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thePYT (message)  7 posts, Newbee

Great post. Thank you so much for sharing. I am a Christian and we also moved in together and I struggled with it. The engagement soon followed, which felt great and I too, cannot wait for the wedding.

 
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Miss Sunhat (message)  865 posts, Busy bee

I could have written this same post myself! I didn’t want to live together until we were engaged but then I transferred w/ my company and buying a house seemed to make more sense then doing the apartment thing and moving multiple times. 5 months later and we were official! I got a bit of the Catholic guilt myself but feel much better now.

 
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Miss Doe (message)  540 posts, Busy bee

I overthink EVERYTHING. :) Just don’t let it bother you….you are doing what is right for you and your future hubs. And that is allll that matters.

 
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Hydra
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Hydra (message)  24 posts, Newbee

My fiance knew I didn’t want to live together until we were engaged, and we had been in a LDR since the beginning of our relationship. So we basically stayed LDR until we were ready to be engaged (about 1.5 years), he proposed, and I moved a month after that! We actually picked out a house together (which he bought) a few months *before* we even got engaged, since we were both on board with the plan.

Our parents are pretty cool with it, probably because they knew that long-distance dating is really hard since they had to do it as well. Fortunately, it’s all worked out quite nicely for us! I’m sure it will work out great for you as well.

 
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Mrs. Cinnamon Bun
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Mrs. Cinnamon Bun (message)  1,100 posts, Bumble bee

Don’t let it bother you, it sounds like you’re doing what is best for the two of you.

We had been living together for 4 years before he proposed! Guilt about that is something that has just never been on either of our radars, as we don’t have religious backgrounds at all. Our families didn’t mind either. For a while I thought we’d grow old together without getting married - I knew we were committed to each other, but I didn’t think we’d ever get the ‘piece of paper’ that you end up with after a marriage.

I’m very happy we did get to have a wedding, don’t get me wrong!

 
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Luna

Thanks for sharing this.

I believe we should eradicate the term “living in sin.” I know for a lot of people it’s just a silly phrase, but words have power! Let’s stamp it out! There was nothing sinful about the household I created with my husband before we got married–same with you, and with all of us who lived together first. :)

 
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Miss Aardvark, Beaver Dam, WI Age and Occupation: 23, Assistant Product Manager Fiance's Age and Occupation: 31, Business Analyst Engagement Date: May 28th, 2011 Wedding Date: April 2012 Venue: St. Philip Catholic Church/Arcadia Brewing Co. About Me: I am a resourceful lady who love surprises and adventure. At the same time, I value traditions, family and friends. I like to make crafty messes, sometimes, clean them up, and do pretty much anything outdoors. The Mister and I are pretty avid cyclists---we have nine bikes in our home right now...and one motorcycle! We both enjoy eating food we can't pronounce (language doesn't really matter) and going places we've never been. We currently reside in rural Wisconsin, enjoying the cheese and beer it has to offer, and getting outside whenever we can!

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