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Mrs. Toadstool, Obregon, Mexico Age and Occupation: 23, Research Assistant Fiance's Age and Occupation: 25, Sales Manager Engagement Date: October 1, 2011 Wedding Date: December 2012 Venue: Hacienda los Agaves About Me: I’m a born and bred Mexican girl with a severe coffee addiction, an obsession for books and an aversion for exercise. I like to plan things, so this wedding’s my dream project---I just need to remind myself from time to time that I’m the bride and not just the planner. I recently realized brown’s my favorite color as I was trying to incorporate it in every aspect of our wedding and I'm dreaming of an autumn vibe since we don’t have that around here. I’m marrying my best friend and partner in crime on the day of our nine-year anniversary! He’s an awesome, smart, fun guy who is patient, and crazy enough to spend the rest of his life with me. We’re planning our not-so-dreamy dream wedding in December in a non-traditional way and making it our own.
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On Keeping My Name…

October 26th, 2012 @ 2:48 pm by Mrs. Toadstool

I’m not changing my name, simple as that. Not because I’m a feminist, not because I like my name (I do), not because I don’t like Mr. Toadstool’s name; simply because I don’t have the option (not that I want to).

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I always wondered why Marge’s last name was Simpson just like everyone else’s, until in seventh grade my English teacher explained to me that in some countries the woman drops her last name and takes her husband’s. Really? Just like that?

Through the years I became familiar with the concept. I even got to talk to my Canadian roommate’s mom who explained her (very good) reasons for changing her name. (She wanted to have the same last name as her kids.)

The thing is in Mexico (and most Latin American countries) women don’t change their name—that’s just not an option. You just can’t change your name. I mean, I know there’s the option, but it’s a very complicated process where you need to go to court and give them a very good, legitimate reason for you to change your name, and even then they might not let you.

You know how it’s a cliché that we Latins have long names? that’s because we have two last names. In addition to my first and middle names, I have my dad’s first (paternal) last name and my mom’s first last name. Mr. Toadstool’s and my kids will have Mr. Toadstool’s dad’s last name and my dad’s last name, and so on.

There’s no way around it—when you’re born your parents are only asked about your first and middle name, and they automatically add the last name—simple really. And as I love visual aids, ’cause that the way my brain understands things, I made one:

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So, I’ll be Miss Toadstool Dad’slastname Mom’slastname forever, and my kids will have my last name as their second one, although they might not use it as much if, like me, they only mention their second last name when it’s required.

Will you change your last name? If not, would you give your kids two last names?

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Miss Lyre (message)  484 posts, Helper bee

Thank you for explaining this! My school has a very large Hispanic population and I’ve always been curious as why so many have hyphenated last names, or different last names from their mother, even when the parents are still together! I never know which name they typically go by because even though they will tell me one last name, my computer has them listed with both!

 
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Mrs. Treasure (message)  1,353 posts, Bumble bee

I actually love the Latin way of carrying on names. It’s a great way of carrying on your family’s history.

 
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Ms_Maple (message)  113 posts, Blushing bee

That’s really interesting. I love learning how different cultures do things.

I am changing my name when I get married. For me it’s because my parents divorced when I was young and my mom re-married not long after that. For most of my life I have not lived in a house with anyone who has the same last name as me. I am really excited to have that and feel like I am part of a unit.

 
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Sabrina Mix

Here in Brazil we have the option to change or not. I haven’t change my name, not because I like it (I don’t) but because I don’t like my husband’s last name too. So I was practical and didn’t change it, not to change my papers too.

xoxo

 
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Miss Toadstool, I had the same question you did–except I was born & raised in the USA! I simply didn’t make sense. I used my last name as a middle name & took Mrs. Fox’s dad’s name for the last name…. then when we divorced it was an *ordeal* — repeat, *ordeal,* to get my family name back. This time around I kept my birth name! Lots of people call me Mrs. NewHusbandsLastName, which throws me off — a lot! — but I’m really glad about this decision!

Congrats on your upcoming nuptuals… a lot is in a name!

Mrs. Fox’s Foxy Mama

 
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Mrs. Pain au Chocolat (message)  2,297 posts, Buzzing bee

I had no idea it was so difficult to change your name… or why so many Latinos have “compound” names. Your diagram totally helped!!

 
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MoonlightRose (message)  902 posts, Busy bee

Although I live in Canada where women frequently do change their last names to that of their husbands, I’ve decided to either have two last names (mine and his) or not change my last name at all. My grandfather was the only son of his family who had any sons and my father was the only son in his family, so I’d like to keep the family name and pass it on to my children. My husband is also happy with this choice because his mother and I actually have the same surname, so it really is both of our family name. In fact, he’s considering changing his surname to mine instead! Right now, he has his father’s surname.

 
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Mrs. Pony (message)  8,382 posts, Bumble Beekeeper

Such a great explanation, I love how the latinos address name changing!

 
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futureMFG (message)  272 posts, Helper bee

I’ve known about this, although I think it’s silly when the parents have the same last name. I have a student whose last name is listed as Martinez Martinez. Gets me every time.

 
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Mrs. Scone (message)  305 posts, Helper bee

I love it! And we are forcing our children into the same situation, one day they can choose to go with both or one of the last names but legally they get two last names because we are going to have two last names (we did it so that we will both have the same last name and when there are kids we won’t be questioned as much as to why our names don’t match, my mom used her maiden name for work and there were always questions because her name was different…)

 
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bebefly (message)  1,753 posts, Buzzing bee

I actually love how the maternal side is carried through in Latin countries.

In Quebec women aren’t allowed to change their name, ever. Which is odd because in the rest of Canada it’s business as usual with the name changes.

 
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happyface (message)  5,777 posts, Bee Keeper

I am in Canada and I know about Quebec’s “rule” about not changing the last name of the women, and I think it’s ridiculous. I want to change my name because I want to have the same name as my husband so the whole family will have one name. (And like I have been telling everyone… the only reason I am getting married is because I don’t like my last name LOL)

 
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lanalnoco (message)  1,294 posts, Bumble bee

I’m gringa but FI is latino… I’ll be keeping my two last names, he’ll be keeping his two last names, and our babies will have his (paternal) last name followed by my (paternal) last name :o )

 
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quinnofhearts (message)  7 posts, Newbee

@Sabrina Mix: We are so in the same boat. My husband’s last name isn’t bad, but I would prefer to keep my last name. In the culture I grew up, it is necessary to change the last name to your spouse’s. My mom and sister keeps asking me to change mine and my husband who is of the same culture as me said, his parents will be offended. =(

 
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yog87 (message)  66 posts, Worker bee

I’m marrying a Brazillian and I was so shocked at how it is traditionally done in Brazil. As much a I love many many things about Brazilian culture this isn’t one of them and I will be taking his full surname as my own. Where I am from it is a sign of respect and I can’t wait!

 
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ChicagoDreamer (message)  509 posts, Busy bee

I like the visual aid! It is confusing and complex.

 
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julienick99 (message)  5 posts, Newbee

I’m keeping mine because I’m a physician and known by my current name in the town and surrounding areas that I practice in. I actually like his last name better but due to it being such an ordeal to get licenses and insurance plans changed while risking that things get screwed up and you don’t get paid its just not worth it. If I would have married before starting a practice in this town or before finishing school I might have taken his name but I’m been in private practice for 5 years now and am well established.

 
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Miss Panda (message)  946 posts, Busy bee

I love the visual aid, it was so helpful. I really love this option of naming. It seems to make so much sense.

 
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clumsylawyer (message)  1,251 posts, Bumble bee

I find it quite interesting that, even though you keep both names, it’s still the paternal ones which get eventually carried through (i.e. hypothetical Toadstool babies will carry their grandfathers’ names, but nothing from their grandmothers).

 
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BabyBlueEyes (message)  233 posts, Helper bee

That’s so interesting! I gotta admit, I actually got out a piece of paper and drew my own diagram using myself and FH and our families so I could understand it!

 
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Mrs. Toadstool, Obregon, Mexico Age and Occupation: 23, Research Assistant Fiance's Age and Occupation: 25, Sales Manager Engagement Date: October 1, 2011 Wedding Date: December 2012 Venue: Hacienda los Agaves About Me: I’m a born and bred Mexican girl with a severe coffee addiction, an obsession for books and an aversion for exercise. I like to plan things, so this wedding’s my dream project---I just need to remind myself from time to time that I’m the bride and not just the planner. I recently realized brown’s my favorite color as I was trying to incorporate it in every aspect of our wedding and I'm dreaming of an autumn vibe since we don’t have that around here. I’m marrying my best friend and partner in crime on the day of our nine-year anniversary! He’s an awesome, smart, fun guy who is patient, and crazy enough to spend the rest of his life with me. We’re planning our not-so-dreamy dream wedding in December in a non-traditional way and making it our own.

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